By A Prophet Preserved

[00:00:00] I'm tempted to say Aloha Nui Loa because I have a little Hawaiian background, spent 12 years in the Hawaiian Islands, and that's the way they greet each other out there.

[00:00:11] At this time of the week, when any Seventh-day Adventist in the Philippines, where I spent four years, meets another Seventh-day Adventist, they always say Happy Sabbath.

[00:00:21] And that's a nice tradition also, so Happy Sabbath to all of you.

[00:00:26] I bring you greetings from a lot of places. Betty and I have been traveling, of course, in the States, and this is the first time outside of the States that we've been out together.

[00:00:38] But we spent some time at Heartland College where I spoke at a camp meeting, and so we bring you greetings from the students gathered there from different parts of the world as well as from the faculty there.

[00:00:47] They're having a wonderful time there and a wonderful institution, and they're branching out.

[00:00:52] They're going to have something going in Norway soon, I understand, and perhaps in other places as well.

[00:00:59] Then in the home church in Redlands, where we minister on an average of twice a week, that's only about 20 miles from our home, Redlands, California.

[00:01:08] And they have an independent congregation there that is seldom less than 100 persons on Sabbath morning.

[00:01:13] And on days when we bring in somebody like Jan Markeson or John Grosball or Ron Spear or somebody like that, it'll go up to 400 or more.

[00:01:22] There are many people around there who don't have much of a choice, and this has been a problem to us for a long time.

[00:01:29] By the way, I should mention that Betty, my wife, told me when we came in here, remember that you have an accent, so don't talk too rapidly to these peoples.

[00:01:39] Are you understanding me all right?

[00:01:42] All right, okay.

[00:01:47] So we get around there in other places, and then on the days when we're not traveling elsewhere, we go to help the Redlands group with their program there.

[00:01:56] Because, as I said, it used to be, you see, we live close to Loma Linda.

[00:02:01] We're about 25 miles from Loma Linda.

[00:02:03] It used to be when people would come from different parts of the country to visit their son or their daughter in the university or the college, they would call us up and say,

[00:02:11] where is there a church where I can go and hear the straight truth presented on Sabbath morning in this area?

[00:02:18] And there are many, many Seventh-day Adventist churches around there.

[00:02:22] There must be 20,000 Seventh-day Adventists within 50 miles of Loma Linda.

[00:02:26] But I didn't know what to tell them.

[00:02:28] I just didn't have any answer for that question.

[00:02:30] But now that the Redlands Church is going, they call it the Redlands Historic Remnant, founded in 1995 by Seventh-day Adventists.

[00:02:39] There's a reason for all that.

[00:02:41] You may have noticed that the General Conference received permission from the Trademark Office of the United States Government to have the exclusive use of the name Seventh-day Adventists.

[00:02:53] And so we had to get a lawyer and have some consultations with the lawyer just what will work.

[00:03:00] It's perfectly all right to use the name Seventh-day Adventists if you just don't use it the wrong way.

[00:03:05] So we learned that if you put a sign up that says Historic Remnant Church, founded in 1995 by Seventh-day Adventists,

[00:03:15] that's all right because that's a sentence telling you something that happened and it's just history.

[00:03:20] The law is a peculiar thing, you know.

[00:03:22] It's something really mysterious to most of us.

[00:03:25] But anyway, we have a good time there.

[00:03:27] We've been up in Montana recently, up in Central California recently.

[00:03:32] And we know that all of those folk would like to have their greetings brought to you here.

[00:03:39] We're happy to see that you're still thriving.

[00:03:41] We wondered about you from time to time in the four years that have passed since I've been here.

[00:03:47] Hoping that all was well with you.

[00:03:50] The devil is not happy with what we're doing, you know, and he's offsetting it in every way he can.

[00:03:56] But we're very glad to hear the good reports and that you are still moving along here and doing the Lord's will

[00:04:03] and surviving, which is so very, very important to us at this time.

[00:04:08] Now, as I come to you from a long way away, I come with a heavy burden.

[00:04:14] I come to you with just a load of information that I want to share with you.

[00:04:21] And so I'm going to have to move along rapidly.

[00:04:23] I'm packing into each message as much as I can to leave with you.

[00:04:28] I would not really encourage anybody to try to take notes.

[00:04:32] I don't think you'll be able to do it very successfully.

[00:04:35] I would encourage you, if you want to do more serious study with the subjects, to get the tapes

[00:04:40] and follow along with the tapes because I will have to move rather rapidly

[00:04:44] if I hope to get through even a good share of the materials I've brought along.

[00:04:49] And endeavoring to find the materials which would focus most specifically and most definitely

[00:04:55] upon our present situation, I have come up with a series of studies which I trust will be helpful to you.

[00:05:01] Tonight, we want to talk about the subject, By a Prophet Preserved.

[00:05:05] And our text, of course, is Hosea 12, verse 13.

[00:05:10] You're familiar with this.

[00:05:12] Let's glance at it again.

[00:05:14] Hosea chapter 12, verse 13.

[00:05:17] And by a prophet the Lord brought Israel out of Egypt, and by a prophet was he preserved.

[00:05:26] Well, you know, of course, we're talking about Moses, and we're talking about the exodus out of Egypt,

[00:05:32] and how the Lord brought those people out and made them into the people of God, into the promised land.

[00:05:39] Now, Moses is the first full figure of a prophet that we find in Scripture.

[00:05:45] We have just glimpses of Enoch and just glimpses of Jacob and Balaam, who were back in those centuries before.

[00:05:53] But Moses is the first one who emerges as a fully authorized and a fully qualified prophet of the Lord.

[00:06:01] And so it's very interesting to see what he and the prophets like him did.

[00:06:07] They actually did a lot.

[00:06:09] They did more than you would expect any human being to be able to do.

[00:06:14] You could say they were men who were larger than life.

[00:06:18] Your English historian, Wells, H.G. Wells, commenting on the course of world history in his smaller book,

[00:06:29] The Outline of World History, makes reference to the prophets.

[00:06:33] He says they were a unique class of men.

[00:06:35] We don't find anything like them anywhere else in history.

[00:06:38] And if even a historian has to recognize that, I think it's very evident that it is true.

[00:06:44] The prophets did incredible things.

[00:06:46] But you see, they were working with a power.

[00:06:50] From Moses through Samuel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, each and every one of them accomplished enormous things.

[00:06:57] Unusual things.

[00:06:58] Extraordinary things.

[00:07:00] And so we think immediately, how?

[00:07:03] Were they a group of genius type persons?

[00:07:07] Tremendously high IQs?

[00:07:09] Well, no doubt they did have high IQs.

[00:07:11] As you probably haven't learned, we learn to recognize that we expect brilliance from the Jewish people even today.

[00:07:20] In the university classroom, you don't feel very happy when you find yourself sitting next to a Jewish scholar

[00:07:25] because you know he's going to get the A grade, very likely.

[00:07:28] Which makes me wonder what kind of an IQ Abraham must have had.

[00:07:32] It must have been astronomical.

[00:07:33] If even here, so many thousands of years later, his descendants still lead the world in brilliance to a large degree,

[00:07:41] he must have had an IQ that was just really enormous.

[00:07:45] It would be nice to know about those things.

[00:07:48] But they didn't do it by brilliance.

[00:07:51] What military leader, I ask you, what military genius, what brilliant military genius would say,

[00:07:59] we're going to deliver the slaves out of Egypt by having them just take off and march out across the desert sands

[00:08:04] up against the waters of the Red Sea?

[00:08:07] Do you think any military mind would have conceived of a plan like that?

[00:08:11] Or what military genius with great training, great ability, great talents in that line,

[00:08:18] would say we're going to take the well-fortified city of Jericho by marching around it in a column seven times until the walls fall down?

[00:08:26] This simply cannot be accredited to human ability.

[00:08:30] Hello there.

[00:08:33] It cannot be credited to human ability.

[00:08:35] It was far more than something like that working.

[00:08:38] The story of Gideon and his 300.

[00:08:41] What military genius would have recommended a plan like that?

[00:08:44] If they had had genius.

[00:08:46] If they had a Napoleon among them, if they had an Artaxerxes, a Darius, a Hitler, a Mussolini, would that have helped?

[00:08:52] No.

[00:08:52] Why would that not have helped?

[00:08:55] Because they were up against the genius of Satan himself.

[00:08:59] They were fighting against the greatest mind that the universe has ever seen of any created being.

[00:09:04] Let's think just a little bit about the mind of Satan, which was the mind of their opponent.

[00:09:10] That's what they were up against.

[00:09:13] Satan's advantages.

[00:09:14] You remember Ezekiel 28, 12 says he was full of wisdom.

[00:09:19] Full of wisdom.

[00:09:20] Here are just a few lines from the spirit of prophecy.

[00:09:24] Desire of Ages, page 758.

[00:09:26] The highest intelligence of all created beings.

[00:09:31] Patriarchs and Prophets 36.

[00:09:33] His intelligence was second only to the mind of Christ.

[00:09:38] Testimonies, volume 2, page 171.

[00:09:40] He possessed the wonderful intellectual power of an angel of which few have any just idea.

[00:09:48] Story of Redemption, page 13.

[00:09:50] A powerful intellect.

[00:09:52] Great Controversy, page 270.

[00:09:54] A giant intellect.

[00:09:56] We'll remember that just a little bit further down the line.

[00:09:59] Fundamentals of Education, page 332.

[00:10:02] A masterly mind.

[00:10:03] Thank you.

[00:10:05] Watch my blood sugar.

[00:10:07] Counselors and Teachers, page 235.

[00:10:09] An artful and a deadly foe.

[00:10:13] Spiritual Gifts, volume 3, page 84.

[00:10:15] Now watch this.

[00:10:16] Ellen White had a vision of the people before the flood and the people after the flood as we come to the last days of this world's history.

[00:10:25] And she said they were like two different races of men.

[00:10:28] We would say today like they came from two different planets.

[00:10:31] You know why?

[00:10:32] Because she says that the men before the flood were about twice as tall as we are today.

[00:10:38] When I went down to Harlan Institute, they had asked me to talk something and say something about the nature of Christ.

[00:10:43] And so I got curious about this size of the man and, of course, the size of the human brain.

[00:10:50] And I manufactured a chair big enough for Adam to sit in.

[00:10:54] In that building where we were, there was a rafter that I could point to, which was 12 feet from the ground.

[00:11:00] And she says he was about that tall.

[00:11:02] 12 feet would be about halfway between that lashing and the top of the tent.

[00:11:06] So you aim your finger about up there.

[00:11:08] That's how tall Adam would stand.

[00:11:10] So what kind of a brain would he have?

[00:11:12] I'm not an engineer and I didn't know how to calculate that.

[00:11:14] So I said, if there's any engineer here, please give me some help on this point.

[00:11:18] So one came to me afterward.

[00:11:19] In fact, two of them came.

[00:11:20] And they said, it's a matter of the cube.

[00:11:23] Do any of you understand that?

[00:11:26] You'll multiply cubes.

[00:11:27] Well, I don't know how to multiply cubes.

[00:11:29] But they told me, you take the number two and multiply it by itself four times and you'll have it.

[00:11:34] Which would mean that his brain was about 16 times as much as our brain.

[00:11:37] You see, when you expand something in all directions, that's more than just making it tall.

[00:11:42] You increase its volume in all directions, which makes a great increase in volume.

[00:11:47] Anyway, you just imagine that she says that Adam had intellectual powers just a little bit below the angels.

[00:11:56] And that Satan's intellectual powers was higher than any of the angels.

[00:12:01] So just imagine the mind, the military genius, any kind of a genius you want to refer to.

[00:12:06] They had no way of competing with the opponent that they were up against.

[00:12:10] So you can't say it was human power.

[00:12:12] Impossible.

[00:12:13] Impossible.

[00:12:14] God had a job to do and he had a time frame that he had to work within.

[00:12:19] He had to bring the people out of Egypt on the 400th year, the Apostle Paul says, to the day.

[00:12:25] And the Apostle Paul says he did bring them out.

[00:12:27] Remember, that's in Genesis 15.

[00:12:29] Would you like to look at that for a moment?

[00:12:32] Genesis chapter 15.

[00:12:34] God was speaking to Abraham.

[00:12:37] And we find this in verse 13.

[00:12:40] Genesis 15, 13.

[00:12:42] And God said unto Abraham, Abram,

[00:12:46] Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs,

[00:12:51] and shall serve them, and they shall afflict them 400 years.

[00:12:56] And also that nation whom they shall serve will I judge,

[00:13:00] and afterwards shall they come out with great substance.

[00:13:03] Paul says that he brought them out on the selfsame day that the 400 years expired.

[00:13:07] And then the next line in verse 16.

[00:13:10] But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again,

[00:13:13] for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

[00:13:18] The situation appears to be like this.

[00:13:21] God had to get Abraham, Abram at this point,

[00:13:24] out of Ur of the Chaldees because the idolatry was getting into his own family,

[00:13:29] his extended family.

[00:13:31] His father and his relatives were getting into idolatry there.

[00:13:33] He had to get them out of there.

[00:13:35] Then he had to put them in a holding pattern like we were on the plane last night.

[00:13:38] Was it last night, two nights ago?

[00:13:41] The pilot told us when we left New York City,

[00:13:44] he said, I'm going to get you into London a little early.

[00:13:46] It'll be a little more than six hours.

[00:13:48] But when we got somewhere up there in the sky,

[00:13:50] he said, I'm sorry folks, we have to go into a holding pattern

[00:13:54] and circle around London for a while.

[00:13:56] So we spent about 20 minutes circling London before we came down.

[00:14:00] Well, the Lord had to do something like that.

[00:14:02] He had to put Abraham in a holding pattern.

[00:14:04] He had to get him out of Ur of the Chaldees

[00:14:06] before he himself became corrupted.

[00:14:08] But he's dealing honestly and fairly with the Amorites.

[00:14:12] And he said their iniquity is not yet full.

[00:14:15] So he was going to give them more time to prove them.

[00:14:18] He put Abraham in a holding pattern to hold him for a while

[00:14:22] before he finally brought him into the promised land.

[00:14:24] But all of this, he had something that had to be done.

[00:14:27] Now, getting past Abraham, down to the time of Moses,

[00:14:30] the 400 years are up.

[00:14:32] It's time that the people must be brought out

[00:14:34] and they have to be taken out of the control

[00:14:37] of the greatest power on earth at that particular time,

[00:14:41] at least as far as we know anything about.

[00:14:44] Certainly a great power to have to contend with

[00:14:46] from a group of slaves who had no, nothing whatever,

[00:14:50] no spirit even, their morale was gone,

[00:14:53] no weapons of any kind.

[00:14:55] And so he has to do the impossible.

[00:14:57] Let's just put it like this.

[00:14:58] He has to do what's impossible.

[00:15:00] In human strength, it absolutely could not be done.

[00:15:02] It would be absolutely impossible for any human being of any kind

[00:15:07] to bring those people out of Egypt,

[00:15:09] across the desert, across the Red Sea, across the Jordan River,

[00:15:11] and on into the promised land.

[00:15:16] Well, impossible for man is no problem to the Lord,

[00:15:18] but he has his own way of doing that.

[00:15:20] When he has a problem like that, he chooses a servant.

[00:15:22] He chooses a prophet.

[00:15:24] And that's what he did with Moses and with those who followed Moses,

[00:15:28] Isaiah, Jeremiah, Samuel, all of those wonderful people.

[00:15:32] They did incredible things.

[00:15:35] They did the impossible.

[00:15:37] They crossed the desert.

[00:15:39] They crossed the Red Sea.

[00:15:40] They crossed the Jordan River.

[00:15:41] They tore down the walls of Jericho.

[00:15:44] They drove the enemy out of the land,

[00:15:46] not as completely as they should have,

[00:15:48] but they could have if they would.

[00:15:49] And remember, the Lord said that he would send a hornet before them

[00:15:53] to clear out the land if they were faithful to him.

[00:15:55] They weren't faithful, so they had to do the fighting themselves,

[00:15:58] which was not his plan.

[00:15:59] But the Lord used them to accomplish incredible things,

[00:16:02] always through a prophet.

[00:16:05] I hope you're getting the direction that I'm going now with this message.

[00:16:09] The Lord does what he does through a prophet.

[00:16:12] That's the only way he works in any large degree.

[00:16:14] He does it through a prophet.

[00:16:16] Now, there were some times when they didn't do so well.

[00:16:20] We think of the time when they sent up a smaller portion of the army

[00:16:25] to take care of the little village of Ai on the mountainside,

[00:16:27] and they came rushing back down in defeat.

[00:16:31] And you think of the times when they failed,

[00:16:33] and we won't take time to recite them all tonight,

[00:16:35] but you remember them,

[00:16:36] and finally ended in the Babylonian captivity.

[00:16:39] And we say, why?

[00:16:41] When it was within their power to do the impossible,

[00:16:44] when they had done the impossible over and over again,

[00:16:48] why these crushing defeats?

[00:16:51] The answer is very, very simple.

[00:16:53] They decided that they had enough up here

[00:16:56] that they didn't any longer need the prophet.

[00:16:59] Now, that is a loaded sentence,

[00:17:01] and I hope you'll carry that home with you.

[00:17:03] They decided that they had so much ability in their brains

[00:17:07] that they didn't need the prophet anymore.

[00:17:09] And so in their folly,

[00:17:14] they became like a little boy.

[00:17:16] Have you seen a little boy with a wooden sword in his hand

[00:17:18] made by nailing two sticks together?

[00:17:21] Now, you send that little boy out to do battle

[00:17:23] with your best soldier in the British Army,

[00:17:26] what do you think would happen to that little boy?

[00:17:28] He'd get blown away before the fight started, wouldn't he?

[00:17:31] And that's what you have before your eyes, folks,

[00:17:34] and I hope you'll think of it like that.

[00:17:36] Whenever we, as the people of God,

[00:17:39] decide we don't need the prophet of God,

[00:17:42] we're taking the place of the little boy

[00:17:43] with the tin shield and the wooden sword

[00:17:46] and facing the brilliance,

[00:17:48] the incredible brilliance of our great enemy Lucifer.

[00:17:51] That's what happened,

[00:17:52] and that's what will happen some more.

[00:17:56] There were prophets sometimes,

[00:17:57] but sometimes the king said, like King Ahab,

[00:17:59] remember the story, the king of Judah in the south

[00:18:02] had come up to visit with the king of Israel in the north,

[00:18:06] King Ahab in the north,

[00:18:08] and Ahab invited the king of Judah

[00:18:10] to join him in attacking an enemy.

[00:18:13] And the king of Judah said,

[00:18:15] well, I'd like to hear from the prophets first,

[00:18:17] and so they brought in the prophets of the sun god.

[00:18:20] Well, that didn't make the king of Judah feel satisfied,

[00:18:22] so he said, isn't there a prophet of Jehovah,

[00:18:25] the true God here that we could inquire of?

[00:18:27] And Ahab said, there is one, but I hate him.

[00:18:30] He always prophesieth evil toward me.

[00:18:34] Well, why would he prophesy evil toward a king?

[00:18:37] Because the king is doing evil.

[00:18:38] That's the only reason.

[00:18:40] Prophets like to prophesy good if they can.

[00:18:43] So God, try to think of it in these two simple forms.

[00:18:48] God uses the prophet to tell the people what to do,

[00:18:53] and he uses the prophet to tell the people what God is going to do.

[00:18:57] We call that the plan of salvation,

[00:18:59] but to state it simply, it's what God is going to do.

[00:19:01] Now, I want to pause here and just ask you to reflect.

[00:19:04] Could either of those things been done in human strength?

[00:19:10] We've been talking about the military things,

[00:19:12] and I hope you're persuaded on that point,

[00:19:13] but think for a moment about the spiritual side of it.

[00:19:16] Did anybody on earth, did any group of human beings on earth,

[00:19:22] or any single human being on earth,

[00:19:25] ever sit down and say,

[00:19:26] I'm going to figure out the plan of salvation,

[00:19:28] or we're going to figure out the plan of salvation?

[00:19:30] How could they do that?

[00:19:32] It had to be revealed to them.

[00:19:35] To state that in its simplest form,

[00:19:37] God uses the prophet to tell us what to do,

[00:19:39] and he uses the prophet to tell us what he's going to do.

[00:19:42] We call that the plan of salvation.

[00:19:44] It had to be delivered to them.

[00:19:46] Let's quickly refer to Scripture.

[00:19:48] In telling us, in telling us what God was going to do,

[00:19:54] the prophets produced a body of literature

[00:19:57] that is not like anything else anywhere in the world,

[00:19:59] and we call it the Scriptures.

[00:20:01] We call it revelation.

[00:20:03] We call it revelation, that which has been revealed to us.

[00:20:06] We want to start with Jude, verse 3.

[00:20:11] Jude, verse 3.

[00:20:13] Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you

[00:20:16] of the common salvation,

[00:20:17] it was needful for me to write unto you

[00:20:20] and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend

[00:20:24] for the faith which was once, what?

[00:20:28] Delivered unto the saints.

[00:20:30] So did the prophets of old have a meeting and say,

[00:20:33] we're going to figure out the plan of salvation?

[00:20:34] Of course not.

[00:20:35] How could they?

[00:20:36] How could they tell you what God is going to do?

[00:20:38] God had to give that message to them.

[00:20:40] He had to reveal it to them.

[00:20:42] We call that revelation.

[00:20:43] And that calls for a definition.

[00:20:45] But let's look at Scriptures a little more.

[00:20:46] 2 Peter 1.21.

[00:20:48] You know these verses.

[00:20:49] 2 Peter 1.21.

[00:20:51] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man,

[00:20:55] but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

[00:20:59] 2 Timothy 3.16-17.

[00:21:03] Another very familiar Scripture.

[00:21:05] Well, maybe I should stop saying that.

[00:21:08] We used to say when we would come to Scriptures like this,

[00:21:11] talking to Seventh-day Adventist people,

[00:21:13] we'd say, oh, you know all about this.

[00:21:15] You've heard it many, many times when you went to evangelistic meetings.

[00:21:20] But how many of you have been to an evangelistic meeting lately?

[00:21:24] In the States, we have young people growing to maturity

[00:21:27] who've never been to an evangelistic meeting in their whole life.

[00:21:30] So we start preaching evangelistic sermons, shall we say,

[00:21:35] doctrinal sermons on Sabbath morning now.

[00:21:37] 2 Timothy 3.16.

[00:21:57] Ephesians 2.19.

[00:22:09] We are no more strangers and foreigners,

[00:22:11] but fellow citizens with the saints and of the household of God,

[00:22:15] and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets.

[00:22:20] The foundation.

[00:22:21] Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone.

[00:22:24] I suppose somebody has pointed out to you that in Palestine,

[00:22:27] most of the land is not leveled.

[00:22:29] It's sloping.

[00:22:30] And they didn't have bulldozers to cut into the bank

[00:22:33] and make a pad like we do nowadays.

[00:22:35] So they went to the sloping land and they put stones.

[00:22:38] They put stones up and across to make a building pad.

[00:22:43] And sometimes, you know, the land tilts both ways.

[00:22:45] It tilts this way and it also tilts this way.

[00:22:47] And so you have a lowest corner down here,

[00:22:50] and that's where you put your biggest stone.

[00:22:51] That's the cornerstone.

[00:22:52] The chief stone.

[00:22:53] The head cornerstone.

[00:22:54] The headstone.

[00:22:54] The cornerstone.

[00:22:55] And then you fill in behind it with the smaller rocks.

[00:22:58] That's what he's talking about.

[00:22:59] And so this foundation upon which the church is built

[00:23:03] is Jesus Christ, the headstone, the chief cornerstone,

[00:23:06] and the apostles and the prophets.

[00:23:09] And from there, we remind ourselves just briefly

[00:23:11] that Moses predicted when he was on the job,

[00:23:14] way back in Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 15,

[00:23:17] he said,

[00:23:17] The Lord God shall raise up another prophet like unto me.

[00:23:20] We believe he was talking primarily about Jesus,

[00:23:23] but not only about Jesus.

[00:23:24] And Revelation 1, verses 1 to 3, I'm sure you remember that.

[00:23:28] The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him

[00:23:30] to give to his servants, the prophets, you see.

[00:23:34] It's a matter of giving.

[00:23:36] It's a matter of revealing.

[00:23:37] It's not a matter of anybody figuring things out.

[00:23:40] If I say that maybe a hundred times before the evening is over,

[00:23:43] you'll understand that's what I'm trying to say.

[00:23:46] Revelation.

[00:23:47] What is revelation?

[00:23:51] Definition is needed.

[00:23:53] When you want to define something or describe something,

[00:23:56] there are two basic approaches to that problem, we might say.

[00:24:00] You can take a look at it

[00:24:04] and get your definition by looking at it.

[00:24:07] Or you can appoint a committee to think about it

[00:24:09] and tell you a definition.

[00:24:12] Now, supposing you don't have any chance to look at it,

[00:24:15] supposing that you were a king of the Hawaiian Islands,

[00:24:17] where I spent 12 years,

[00:24:19] way back in the days before there were very many

[00:24:23] what they call haoles from the other side of the world there.

[00:24:26] But these foreigners come along

[00:24:28] and they start talking about something called a horse.

[00:24:31] And they say,

[00:24:32] you ought to have some horses out here.

[00:24:33] So you are the king and you wonder,

[00:24:35] do I need a horse?

[00:24:37] You've never seen a horse?

[00:24:38] All you know is what these people have to say.

[00:24:41] So you, shall we say,

[00:24:43] appoint a committee,

[00:24:44] your top advisors,

[00:24:45] your best thinking wise men.

[00:24:47] You sit down and have a meeting

[00:24:49] and tell me what a horse is like.

[00:24:52] What do you think they would picture for him?

[00:24:55] Well, they learned from the foreigners

[00:24:56] that a horse is a big, big animal.

[00:25:00] Well, the biggest thing to them

[00:25:01] they've ever seen is a whale.

[00:25:02] You can see whales occasionally

[00:25:03] swimming around the Hawaiian Islands.

[00:25:05] Out there, I've seen that happen.

[00:25:07] So it must be something like a whale.

[00:25:10] And these foreigners say

[00:25:11] it has a tail that it can move back and forth.

[00:25:14] Ah, pigs have tails that move back and forth.

[00:25:16] So a whale-like creature

[00:25:18] with a tail like a pig,

[00:25:20] you see in the air,

[00:25:21] and you go on and on.

[00:25:22] You can see where this would go.

[00:25:24] Now, they might come close

[00:25:28] and they might not.

[00:25:29] Let's pause for a moment

[00:25:30] and put in a little parentheses here.

[00:25:33] We're not just saying

[00:25:34] that it's an evil thing to have committees.

[00:25:36] Sometimes that's the best thing you can do.

[00:25:38] But it would be a very sad thing

[00:25:40] if the committee would stubbornly fight

[00:25:42] against the real thing,

[00:25:43] don't you suppose?

[00:25:44] Remember when the first man

[00:25:46] put his foot down

[00:25:47] from the little ladder

[00:25:48] in the landing craft

[00:25:49] and put his foot on the moon?

[00:25:51] Do you know what was not known

[00:25:53] by the best scientific minds

[00:25:54] at that time

[00:25:55] was how deep his foot

[00:25:56] would go into the dust.

[00:25:58] There were some brilliant scientists

[00:26:00] operating with the best committee work

[00:26:02] that they could come up with

[00:26:03] who had predicted

[00:26:04] that the force of gravity

[00:26:06] on the moon

[00:26:06] would be so weak

[00:26:08] and the dirt would be so loose

[00:26:09] that if a man stepped on it,

[00:26:10] he'd go in over his head

[00:26:12] or maybe clear down

[00:26:13] to the center of the moon.

[00:26:14] Who knew?

[00:26:17] Well, when the man stepped on

[00:26:19] and his foot went down

[00:26:20] two to three inches in the dust

[00:26:21] and then he found solid work,

[00:26:23] that theory went out the window, right?

[00:26:26] Would it not have been disappointing

[00:26:27] if that group of scientists,

[00:26:28] we don't care what his foot did,

[00:26:30] we're sticking to our theory.

[00:26:31] Wouldn't that be kind of dumb?

[00:26:33] We would hate to see anybody

[00:26:34] act like that, would we not?

[00:26:35] We were glad

[00:26:36] that they submitted to the truth.

[00:26:38] Okay, let's go back

[00:26:39] to our Hawaiian king.

[00:26:40] And so he has this report before him,

[00:26:42] Chief, look for an animal

[00:26:44] that looks like a whale

[00:26:46] with a tail like a pig.

[00:26:48] And then he finally gets a horse

[00:26:50] in the islands

[00:26:51] coming in on a ship

[00:26:52] and he has a look at it

[00:26:53] and he corrects all that.

[00:26:54] You say,

[00:26:55] what in the world

[00:26:55] has that got to do with revelation?

[00:26:57] This is what it has to do.

[00:26:59] Folks,

[00:26:59] when I hear people

[00:27:00] talking about revelation,

[00:27:02] expressing their thoughts

[00:27:03] on revelation,

[00:27:03] they sound very much to me

[00:27:05] like the Hawaiian king's committee.

[00:27:08] They're just working

[00:27:09] out of their own heads

[00:27:09] instead of looking at it.

[00:27:11] This is the revelation of God.

[00:27:14] If you want to know

[00:27:15] what it's like,

[00:27:16] take a look at it.

[00:27:17] You don't have to build

[00:27:18] a horse out of a whale

[00:27:19] and a pig's tail

[00:27:20] or anything like that.

[00:27:21] Now let me go

[00:27:22] into a few specifics

[00:27:24] while we talk about

[00:27:25] what is revelation.

[00:27:28] Our committee,

[00:27:29] we've got a committee set up.

[00:27:30] Best minds we can get together

[00:27:32] and we say,

[00:27:32] now you tell us

[00:27:33] what revelation is

[00:27:34] and don't condemn them

[00:27:35] because you've had

[00:27:37] some of these thoughts

[00:27:37] in your own mind

[00:27:38] if I'm not mistaken.

[00:27:40] Number one,

[00:27:41] if there is

[00:27:43] a literature in the world

[00:27:45] called revelation

[00:27:45] coming from the Lord,

[00:27:47] it would have to be

[00:27:49] a single,

[00:27:51] special literary style.

[00:27:53] I've heard people

[00:27:54] talk like that.

[00:27:56] Probably you have too.

[00:27:57] But when we look at the Bible,

[00:27:59] what do we find?

[00:28:00] We find in Genesis

[00:28:02] a historical style.

[00:28:03] We find in the book of Acts

[00:28:05] a historical style.

[00:28:06] We find in the four gospels

[00:28:07] a historical style.

[00:28:08] So there's one particular style.

[00:28:10] When we start looking around,

[00:28:13] we come to the Psalms

[00:28:13] and we find a poetic style.

[00:28:15] We come to Proverbs

[00:28:16] and we find a wisdom literature style.

[00:28:19] Very like wisdom literature

[00:28:20] that was published

[00:28:21] in other countries

[00:28:21] at that time.

[00:28:22] Proverbs were a common way

[00:28:24] of expressing thoughts

[00:28:25] at that time.

[00:28:26] We find a dramatic style

[00:28:28] in the book of Job's.

[00:28:29] And we find a prophetic style

[00:28:31] in Daniel and Revelation

[00:28:32] and some parts of other books

[00:28:33] as well.

[00:28:34] So we don't find

[00:28:36] a single literary style.

[00:28:37] So that opinion

[00:28:38] goes out the window.

[00:28:40] Then we talk about

[00:28:41] the wording.

[00:28:42] What kind of words

[00:28:43] would be used

[00:28:44] by a person

[00:28:45] inspired by God?

[00:28:46] Oh, surely the highest,

[00:28:47] the highest form of language

[00:28:48] spoken by any people

[00:28:50] that he addressed.

[00:28:51] You know,

[00:28:51] you speak of high German

[00:28:53] and low German.

[00:28:54] I was interested

[00:28:55] in reading the books

[00:28:57] by your author,

[00:28:58] Heriot.

[00:28:59] Is that the way

[00:28:59] you pronounce it here?

[00:29:00] The veterinarian

[00:29:01] who wrote the books

[00:29:02] about his practice.

[00:29:03] I enjoyed those books a lot.

[00:29:05] And I noticed

[00:29:05] that even in his time,

[00:29:08] which was one generation

[00:29:09] behind us,

[00:29:09] I would say,

[00:29:11] he reported

[00:29:12] that the common people,

[00:29:14] the farmers

[00:29:14] and the herdsmen

[00:29:15] and the tradesmen

[00:29:17] with whom he dealt,

[00:29:19] when he reported

[00:29:19] how they talked to him,

[00:29:20] they often said,

[00:29:21] thee and thou

[00:29:22] and hast

[00:29:23] and that sort of thing,

[00:29:24] which was the common

[00:29:26] people's language

[00:29:26] of that time.

[00:29:28] Well, the strange thing

[00:29:29] about the Bible

[00:29:30] is it doesn't come to us

[00:29:31] in high English,

[00:29:31] it doesn't come to us

[00:29:32] in high German,

[00:29:33] it comes to us

[00:29:34] in the language

[00:29:34] of the common man.

[00:29:36] This was a little bit hard

[00:29:37] for people to understand.

[00:29:38] We do have differences

[00:29:39] in style,

[00:29:40] we do have differences

[00:29:41] in wording.

[00:29:42] If you compare

[00:29:43] in the original language,

[00:29:44] in the Greek language,

[00:29:45] if you compare Hebrews

[00:29:46] with Mark,

[00:29:46] you'll see quite a difference.

[00:29:48] The writer of Hebrews

[00:29:49] was obviously

[00:29:50] a very well-educated man,

[00:29:51] a master

[00:29:52] of the Greek language.

[00:29:53] The writer of Mark

[00:29:54] was Mark,

[00:29:55] the young disciple

[00:29:56] who didn't know

[00:29:57] Greek all that well.

[00:29:58] He uses short,

[00:29:59] simple words

[00:29:59] and it's easy to see

[00:30:02] that he was not

[00:30:02] well-educated

[00:30:03] in the Greek language.

[00:30:04] So you have

[00:30:04] that kind of a difference.

[00:30:05] But as far as

[00:30:06] high and low,

[00:30:07] you see the general

[00:30:09] pattern of language

[00:30:10] in the New Testament

[00:30:11] in the Greek language

[00:30:12] was a mystery

[00:30:13] to the scholars

[00:30:13] for some time

[00:30:15] because it was different

[00:30:16] from what they call

[00:30:17] classical Greek,

[00:30:18] the classical Greek

[00:30:19] of Homer

[00:30:20] and the Iliad

[00:30:21] and the Odyssey

[00:30:21] and all that

[00:30:22] sort of thing.

[00:30:23] It was very different

[00:30:24] from that

[00:30:24] so they didn't really

[00:30:25] know what it was.

[00:30:27] Some even said,

[00:30:28] well maybe it's

[00:30:29] that special

[00:30:29] high language

[00:30:30] that you think about

[00:30:32] but it turned out

[00:30:33] to not be that at all.

[00:30:34] It's the language

[00:30:34] of the common man.

[00:30:36] The New Testament

[00:30:37] is written

[00:30:37] in the language

[00:30:38] of the common man

[00:30:38] in the Greek language,

[00:30:39] the language

[00:30:39] of the street

[00:30:40] and the farm,

[00:30:41] the shop

[00:30:42] and the office,

[00:30:43] that sort of thing.

[00:30:44] It's not anything

[00:30:45] highly elevated at all

[00:30:46] like we have

[00:30:47] high Spanish

[00:30:48] and low Spanish

[00:30:49] and all that sort of thing.

[00:30:51] Another point

[00:30:52] that our committee

[00:30:52] would undoubtedly

[00:30:53] come up with

[00:30:54] is if you've got

[00:30:56] inspired men

[00:30:57] describing a situation

[00:30:59] they'll surely

[00:30:59] all describe it

[00:31:00] exactly alike.

[00:31:02] Well in the first place

[00:31:04] if you got

[00:31:04] four witnesses

[00:31:05] into a courtroom

[00:31:06] to describe something

[00:31:08] they all saw happen

[00:31:09] and if they all

[00:31:10] describe it

[00:31:11] in exactly the same language

[00:31:12] the court would throw them out.

[00:31:14] The judge would say

[00:31:15] this is a frame up

[00:31:16] you are not telling the truth

[00:31:17] because human minds

[00:31:18] don't work like that.

[00:31:19] Human brains

[00:31:20] don't work like that.

[00:31:21] In the four gospels

[00:31:22] we don't find

[00:31:23] identical descriptions.

[00:31:24] We find one

[00:31:26] recognizing this factor

[00:31:27] more importantly

[00:31:28] and another

[00:31:29] recognizing this factor.

[00:31:30] You just take a look

[00:31:31] at them.

[00:31:31] We don't have time

[00:31:32] to talk about this evening

[00:31:33] but in Matthew

[00:31:34] you find a book

[00:31:35] that was written

[00:31:36] obviously

[00:31:36] for the Jewish reader.

[00:31:38] Why do we say that?

[00:31:40] Because he's continually

[00:31:41] referring to the fulfilling

[00:31:42] of prophecy.

[00:31:43] This was done

[00:31:44] that the prophecy

[00:31:45] might be fulfilled.

[00:31:46] This was said

[00:31:47] that the prophecy

[00:31:47] might be fulfilled

[00:31:48] which would be meaningful

[00:31:49] to a Jewish reader

[00:31:50] who knew about the prophecies

[00:31:52] but it wouldn't be meaningful

[00:31:52] to anybody else at all.

[00:31:54] Mark on the other hand

[00:31:55] is just the opposite.

[00:31:57] He works

[00:31:57] he's obviously

[00:31:58] writing to the Gentile.

[00:31:59] He did not write

[00:32:00] for the Jewish reader

[00:32:01] because he goes

[00:32:03] exactly the other way.

[00:32:04] He tells you

[00:32:05] that they

[00:32:07] washed their hands

[00:32:08] at a certain time

[00:32:09] in a certain way

[00:32:09] he says

[00:32:12] and they had a custom

[00:32:13] about the washing

[00:32:13] of pots and pans.

[00:32:14] He explains Jewish customs

[00:32:16] to his readers

[00:32:16] which you wouldn't do

[00:32:18] for a Jewish reader.

[00:32:19] You wouldn't need

[00:32:19] that explanation at all.

[00:32:21] And John

[00:32:22] is the theologian.

[00:32:24] He talks more

[00:32:25] about what Jesus said

[00:32:26] and not so much

[00:32:27] about what Jesus did.

[00:32:28] He fastens on

[00:32:29] to the great truths

[00:32:30] that came

[00:32:30] and Luke

[00:32:31] is the careful historian.

[00:32:33] He tells you

[00:32:34] this happened

[00:32:34] in such and such a day

[00:32:35] of such and such a king

[00:32:36] in such and such a place.

[00:32:37] He gets it all down

[00:32:38] for the history books.

[00:32:39] So they all were looking

[00:32:40] at it from different ways

[00:32:41] but we put them all together

[00:32:42] we have it beautifully.

[00:32:44] And somebody would say

[00:32:45] it must be legally precise

[00:32:47] like a lawyer's language

[00:32:48] and dearly beloved

[00:32:49] if you ever looked

[00:32:50] at the fine print

[00:32:51] in your contracts

[00:32:52] do you think anybody

[00:32:53] would ever been saved

[00:32:54] by reading that stuff?

[00:32:55] I don't think so.

[00:32:56] If it were inspired literature

[00:32:58] it wouldn't have

[00:32:59] any of the mistakes

[00:32:59] of good men in it

[00:33:00] but look at the Bible

[00:33:01] and what do you see?

[00:33:02] We find David's faults

[00:33:03] clearly presented there

[00:33:05] and Peter's and Paul's

[00:33:06] and Barnabas and so on.

[00:33:08] It would be systematic

[00:33:09] an organization.

[00:33:10] You would go from

[00:33:11] one chapter to one thought

[00:33:12] to the next chapter

[00:33:13] to another thought

[00:33:13] but the Bible is not like that.

[00:33:15] Revelation is not like that.

[00:33:16] It's more like a field

[00:33:18] of wild flowers

[00:33:19] growing in the fields

[00:33:20] than it is like

[00:33:21] a garden with rose

[00:33:23] and all that sort of thing.

[00:33:25] And then a very

[00:33:26] very important point

[00:33:28] people will say

[00:33:29] and I'm quite sure

[00:33:31] you've heard people say this

[00:33:33] if it's inspired by the Lord

[00:33:35] one writer will never use words

[00:33:37] that were already used

[00:33:38] by another writer.

[00:33:39] Nobody will do any copying.

[00:33:41] You see what I mean?

[00:33:43] Well, would you open

[00:33:44] your Bibles now

[00:33:45] and let's just look.

[00:33:46] And when one brother

[00:33:48] over in the States

[00:33:49] a few years back

[00:33:50] made a great point

[00:33:51] out of saying

[00:33:52] that he had made

[00:33:53] a great, great, great

[00:33:55] horrifying discovery

[00:33:56] that Ellen White copied

[00:33:59] words here and there

[00:34:00] from some other writers.

[00:34:02] Well, when he was challenged

[00:34:04] and said she didn't

[00:34:06] break any laws

[00:34:07] because the laws

[00:34:08] of her time

[00:34:09] were not against that

[00:34:10] he said,

[00:34:12] oh, but we're talking

[00:34:12] about ethical matters.

[00:34:14] Well, if we're talking

[00:34:15] about ethical matters

[00:34:16] look at the book

[00:34:17] on ethics.

[00:34:18] Would you look

[00:34:19] at the book of Jude, please?

[00:34:20] We were there

[00:34:21] just a few minutes ago.

[00:34:25] The book of Jude

[00:34:26] turn to that

[00:34:27] and hold one finger there

[00:34:30] and with your other finger

[00:34:31] turn back to

[00:34:32] 2 Peter chapter 2.

[00:34:34] I want to show you

[00:34:34] something here.

[00:34:36] We're going to compare

[00:34:37] the book of Jude

[00:34:39] which has only one chapter

[00:34:41] with 2 Peter chapter 2

[00:34:43] and I'll give you time

[00:34:44] to find these two chapters.

[00:34:46] Okay?

[00:34:47] Now you're in 2 Peter.

[00:34:49] Look at 2 Peter chapter 2

[00:34:51] verse 4.

[00:34:54] For if God spared not

[00:34:56] the angels that sinned

[00:34:58] but cast them down to hell

[00:35:00] and delivered them

[00:35:01] into chains of darkness

[00:35:02] to be reserved

[00:35:03] unto judgment.

[00:35:04] Hold it right there.

[00:35:05] And hold your finger there

[00:35:07] and flip over to Jude

[00:35:08] verse 6.

[00:35:11] And the angels

[00:35:13] which kept not

[00:35:14] their first estate

[00:35:15] but left their own habitation

[00:35:16] he hath reserved

[00:35:18] in everlasting chains

[00:35:19] under darkness

[00:35:20] unto the judgment

[00:35:21] of the great day.

[00:35:22] That looks very like

[00:35:22] somebody did some copying

[00:35:24] does it not?

[00:35:25] Go back to 2 Peter

[00:35:27] and look at

[00:35:28] 2 Peter verse 6

[00:35:31] chapter 2 verse 6.

[00:35:33] And turning the cities

[00:35:34] of Sodom and Gomorrah

[00:35:36] into ashes

[00:35:37] condemned them

[00:35:38] with an overthrow

[00:35:39] making them an example

[00:35:41] unto those

[00:35:41] that after should live

[00:35:42] ungodly.

[00:35:44] Flip over to Jude

[00:35:45] and look at

[00:35:46] verse 7.

[00:35:48] Even as Sodom and Gomorrah

[00:35:50] and the cities

[00:35:51] about them

[00:35:52] in like manner

[00:35:52] giving themselves over

[00:35:54] to fornication

[00:35:55] and going after

[00:35:55] strange flesh

[00:35:56] are set forth

[00:35:57] for an example

[00:35:58] suffering the vengeance

[00:35:59] of eternal fire.

[00:36:00] Looks very similar

[00:36:01] does it not?

[00:36:02] Go back to 2 Peter

[00:36:03] and look at

[00:36:04] verse 10

[00:36:05] chapter 2 verse 10.

[00:36:09] But chiefly

[00:36:10] them that walk

[00:36:11] after the flesh

[00:36:11] in the lust

[00:36:12] of uncleanness

[00:36:13] and despise government

[00:36:15] presumptuous

[00:36:16] are they

[00:36:16] self-willed

[00:36:17] they are not afraid

[00:36:18] to speak evil

[00:36:19] of dignities.

[00:36:20] Go to Jude

[00:36:21] verse 8.

[00:36:23] Likewise also

[00:36:25] these filthy dreamers

[00:36:26] defile the flesh

[00:36:27] despise dominion

[00:36:28] and speak evil

[00:36:29] of dignities.

[00:36:31] Back to 2 Peter

[00:36:32] chapter 2

[00:36:33] verse 11.

[00:36:36] Whereas angels

[00:36:37] which are greater

[00:36:38] in power and might

[00:36:39] bring not

[00:36:40] railing accusation

[00:36:41] against them

[00:36:42] before the Lord.

[00:36:43] Go to Jude

[00:36:44] verse 9.

[00:36:46] Yet Michael

[00:36:47] the archangel

[00:36:48] when contending

[00:36:48] with the devil

[00:36:49] he disputed

[00:36:50] about the body

[00:36:50] of Moses

[00:36:51] durst not bring

[00:36:52] against him

[00:36:52] a railing accusation

[00:36:54] but said

[00:36:54] the Lord

[00:36:55] rebuke thee.

[00:36:56] Back to 2 Peter

[00:36:58] chapter 2

[00:36:59] verse 12.

[00:37:01] But these

[00:37:02] as natural

[00:37:03] brute beasts

[00:37:04] made to be

[00:37:05] taken and destroyed

[00:37:06] speak evil

[00:37:07] of the things

[00:37:07] that they

[00:37:07] understand not

[00:37:08] and shall

[00:37:09] utterly perish

[00:37:10] in their own

[00:37:11] corruption.

[00:37:11] Let's look at

[00:37:12] Jude verse 10.

[00:37:13] Jude 10.

[00:37:14] But these

[00:37:15] speak evil

[00:37:16] of those things

[00:37:17] which they

[00:37:17] know not

[00:37:18] but what they

[00:37:19] know naturally

[00:37:19] as brute beasts

[00:37:20] in those things

[00:37:21] they corrupt

[00:37:22] themselves.

[00:37:23] Clearly

[00:37:24] somebody did

[00:37:25] some copying

[00:37:25] and it

[00:37:25] did not

[00:37:26] offend

[00:37:26] the Lord.

[00:37:27] He had

[00:37:27] to put

[00:37:27] both parts

[00:37:28] of it

[00:37:28] into the

[00:37:28] Bible.

[00:37:29] So the

[00:37:29] idea that

[00:37:30] when some

[00:37:31] man somewhere

[00:37:31] in the world

[00:37:32] writes something

[00:37:33] down that

[00:37:33] nobody else

[00:37:34] can write

[00:37:34] that same

[00:37:34] thing down

[00:37:35] did not

[00:37:35] come from

[00:37:36] God.

[00:37:36] That came

[00:37:37] from the

[00:37:37] lawmakers

[00:37:38] of the

[00:37:38] land

[00:37:38] who are

[00:37:39] trying to

[00:37:39] protect

[00:37:39] the

[00:37:39] pocketbooks

[00:37:40] of the

[00:37:40] writers.

[00:37:41] Please notice

[00:37:41] what I said.

[00:37:43] The laws

[00:37:44] on what they

[00:37:45] call plagiarism

[00:37:46] copying

[00:37:47] are not

[00:37:48] intended to

[00:37:48] protect

[00:37:49] the ideas

[00:37:50] of the

[00:37:51] writer.

[00:37:51] They're

[00:37:51] intended to

[00:37:52] protect

[00:37:52] his pocketbook.

[00:37:54] Here's

[00:37:54] something

[00:37:55] people often

[00:37:55] misunderstand.

[00:37:57] If you

[00:37:58] copy what

[00:37:58] another man

[00:37:59] wrote and

[00:38:02] you give him

[00:38:02] credit with

[00:38:04] a footnote

[00:38:04] at the bottom

[00:38:05] of the page

[00:38:06] for every

[00:38:06] line you

[00:38:07] copied he

[00:38:09] can still

[00:38:09] sue you and

[00:38:10] collect if

[00:38:11] that causes

[00:38:11] him to lose

[00:38:12] sales on

[00:38:12] his book.

[00:38:13] Are you

[00:38:14] with me?

[00:38:15] You write a

[00:38:16] book.

[00:38:16] You copy

[00:38:17] material from

[00:38:18] another man's

[00:38:18] book and

[00:38:19] you faithfully

[00:38:19] and very

[00:38:20] very honestly

[00:38:21] give him

[00:38:21] credit for

[00:38:22] every line

[00:38:22] you copied

[00:38:23] and people

[00:38:24] start buying

[00:38:24] your book

[00:38:25] instead of

[00:38:25] his he

[00:38:26] can sue

[00:38:26] you and

[00:38:26] collect.

[00:38:28] That's under

[00:38:28] United States

[00:38:29] law and

[00:38:29] they tell us

[00:38:30] that the

[00:38:30] United States

[00:38:30] law is built

[00:38:31] on British

[00:38:31] common law

[00:38:32] so I think

[00:38:32] it would

[00:38:32] be the same

[00:38:33] thing here.

[00:38:34] People sometimes

[00:38:35] have the idea

[00:38:36] well if you

[00:38:36] just give the

[00:38:37] man credit

[00:38:37] you can copy

[00:38:38] all you want

[00:38:38] or no.

[00:38:39] If you

[00:38:40] heard his

[00:38:40] pocketbook

[00:38:41] he can

[00:38:41] sue you

[00:38:41] regardless

[00:38:42] the courts

[00:38:43] don't try to

[00:38:43] protect the

[00:38:44] idea.

[00:38:44] They find

[00:38:44] that impossible.

[00:38:46] It's impossible

[00:38:47] to tell how

[00:38:47] much of this

[00:38:48] man's thinking

[00:38:48] came from

[00:38:49] here.

[00:38:51] If you've

[00:38:51] ever taught

[00:38:52] a university

[00:38:52] classroom as

[00:38:53] I have done

[00:38:54] in the

[00:38:55] seminary of

[00:38:55] the Far

[00:38:55] East and

[00:38:57] you prepare

[00:38:57] for that

[00:38:58] teaching by

[00:38:58] doing lots

[00:38:59] of research

[00:39:00] and you

[00:39:00] stand up

[00:39:00] before the

[00:39:01] class and

[00:39:03] teach you

[00:39:04] will be

[00:39:04] picking things

[00:39:05] up out of

[00:39:06] 20 different

[00:39:06] books that

[00:39:07] you have read

[00:39:08] and putting it

[00:39:08] before them

[00:39:09] because you've

[00:39:09] gathered all

[00:39:10] that together.

[00:39:11] So they

[00:39:11] don't try to

[00:39:12] protect the

[00:39:12] ideas they try

[00:39:13] to protect the

[00:39:13] pocketbook and

[00:39:15] giving credit

[00:39:16] does not solve

[00:39:16] the problem.

[00:39:17] People say

[00:39:18] well Ellen White

[00:39:19] didn't give

[00:39:19] credit so what?

[00:39:21] Number one

[00:39:21] the laws in

[00:39:22] her time did

[00:39:23] not require that

[00:39:24] number two

[00:39:24] if she had

[00:39:25] given credit

[00:39:26] and the people

[00:39:27] lost money by

[00:39:27] it they could

[00:39:28] sue her but

[00:39:29] remember this

[00:39:29] at the same

[00:39:31] time she was

[00:39:32] doing that she

[00:39:32] was highly

[00:39:33] recommending in

[00:39:34] the Review and

[00:39:35] Herald and

[00:39:36] in the Signs of

[00:39:37] the Times that

[00:39:37] the people buy

[00:39:38] those books that

[00:39:39] she was using.

[00:39:40] How was anybody

[00:39:41] going to lose

[00:39:42] money on that

[00:39:42] deal?

[00:39:43] They were making

[00:39:43] money by the

[00:39:44] work of Ellen

[00:39:44] White.

[00:39:45] She was promoting

[00:39:46] their books.

[00:39:46] But we have to

[00:39:47] deal with this.

[00:39:48] Our New Testament

[00:39:49] specialists tell us

[00:39:50] that the book of

[00:39:52] Mark is 95% copied

[00:39:55] into Matthew and

[00:39:56] Luke.

[00:39:57] So remember that.

[00:39:59] And if you'd like

[00:40:00] to look at the book

[00:40:00] of Genesis I'll

[00:40:01] show you one more

[00:40:02] point on that.

[00:40:05] Revelation not only

[00:40:06] includes God

[00:40:09] giving information

[00:40:10] to the writer

[00:40:11] that they did not

[00:40:11] have before.

[00:40:13] It also means God's

[00:40:15] supervision of how

[00:40:16] they deal with what's

[00:40:17] already before them.

[00:40:19] Genesis chapter 2

[00:40:20] verse 4.

[00:40:25] Genesis chapter 2

[00:40:26] verse 4.

[00:40:27] Notice the line.

[00:40:29] These are the

[00:40:30] generations of the

[00:40:32] heavens.

[00:40:33] Generation comes

[00:40:34] from a Hebrew word

[00:40:35] toli doth.

[00:40:37] It means the record

[00:40:40] of what happened in

[00:40:41] the past.

[00:40:41] Now let's look

[00:40:42] along through the

[00:40:43] book of Genesis and

[00:40:44] pick that up in a few

[00:40:45] places shall we?

[00:40:46] Go to chapter 5

[00:40:47] verse 1.

[00:40:50] Chapter 5 verse 1.

[00:40:52] This is the book of

[00:40:52] the generations of

[00:40:54] Adam.

[00:40:55] Chapter 6 verse 9.

[00:40:58] 6-9.

[00:40:59] These are the

[00:41:00] generations of Noah.

[00:41:02] This is the

[00:41:02] toli doth of Noah.

[00:41:04] Let's go from there

[00:41:05] to chapter 10 verse 1.

[00:41:08] These are the

[00:41:09] generations of the

[00:41:10] sons of Noah.

[00:41:11] This is the toli doth

[00:41:12] of Noah.

[00:41:13] Chapter 11 verse 10.

[00:41:18] Chapter 11 verse 10.

[00:41:20] These are the

[00:41:21] generations of Shem.

[00:41:22] Chapter 11 verse 27.

[00:41:26] These are the

[00:41:26] generations of Terah.

[00:41:29] Chapter 25 verse 12.

[00:41:33] Chapter 25 verse 12.

[00:41:43] These are the

[00:41:44] generations of Ishmael,

[00:41:46] Abraham's son.

[00:41:47] Same chapter verse 19.

[00:41:49] And these are the

[00:41:51] generations of Isaac,

[00:41:52] Abraham's son.

[00:41:53] What is Moses telling

[00:41:55] you there?

[00:41:55] Moses is telling you he

[00:41:57] had before him a

[00:41:58] written record.

[00:41:59] A written record.

[00:42:01] You see in those

[00:42:02] days, not in, not

[00:42:05] before the flood but

[00:42:06] after the flood when

[00:42:06] writing came along.

[00:42:08] If a man had a

[00:42:10] library, this

[00:42:11] consisted of little

[00:42:12] tablets of hardened

[00:42:13] clay which he carried

[00:42:14] in a goatskin pouch.

[00:42:15] That was his library.

[00:42:17] And there would be

[00:42:18] in there on those

[00:42:20] little tablets of

[00:42:21] clay a record of

[00:42:22] how he bought this

[00:42:23] goat and how he

[00:42:24] paid this much for

[00:42:24] that camel or that

[00:42:26] horse or whatever.

[00:42:28] And if he owned a

[00:42:30] house, there would be

[00:42:31] a record of how much

[00:42:32] he paid for the

[00:42:32] house.

[00:42:32] That would be a

[00:42:33] little tablet of

[00:42:34] clay.

[00:42:34] But among those

[00:42:35] little tablets of

[00:42:36] clay, the one which

[00:42:37] was most precious was

[00:42:39] his pedigree.

[00:42:40] The one which showed

[00:42:41] who his ancestors

[00:42:42] were all the way back

[00:42:44] to Abraham.

[00:42:44] Abraham.

[00:42:45] That was the most

[00:42:46] vitally important

[00:42:47] thing in there.

[00:42:49] That was the

[00:42:49] Toledoth, the record

[00:42:51] of the generations.

[00:42:52] And so when Moses

[00:42:53] writes to us, this

[00:42:56] is the Toledoth of

[00:42:58] Ishmael.

[00:42:58] This is the Toledoth

[00:42:59] of Isaac.

[00:43:00] This is the Toledoth.

[00:43:01] This is the Toledoth.

[00:43:02] This is the Toledoth.

[00:43:02] He's telling you that

[00:43:03] he had written records

[00:43:04] before him and that

[00:43:06] he copied them under

[00:43:07] the supervision of the

[00:43:09] Holy Spirit.

[00:43:10] He didn't make any

[00:43:11] mistakes.

[00:43:11] He didn't copy any

[00:43:13] fake phony contracts

[00:43:14] or anything like that.

[00:43:15] He copied all that

[00:43:16] which was right.

[00:43:18] So when people say to

[00:43:19] me, don't you know

[00:43:21] that Ellen White copied?

[00:43:22] I say, so what?

[00:43:23] She didn't break any

[00:43:23] laws.

[00:43:24] There were no laws

[00:43:24] against it in her time.

[00:43:27] And they say, but

[00:43:29] she's not supposed to

[00:43:30] do that.

[00:43:32] I say, listen, if you

[00:43:33] want to prove something

[00:43:34] to me, you find the

[00:43:35] place in Ellen White's

[00:43:36] writings where she

[00:43:37] copied that the earth

[00:43:38] was flat.

[00:43:40] Or when she copied

[00:43:41] that the earth was

[00:43:42] square.

[00:43:43] You find some place

[00:43:44] in her writings where

[00:43:45] she copied something

[00:43:46] that is not true,

[00:43:47] then you're doing

[00:43:48] something.

[00:43:49] If you can't do that,

[00:43:50] don't waste my time.

[00:43:50] I don't have time to

[00:43:51] fool with stuff like

[00:43:52] that.

[00:43:53] Finally, people will

[00:43:55] say, our committee,

[00:43:56] shall we say, would

[00:43:57] say it should be word

[00:43:58] for word dictation.

[00:44:01] But Ellen White

[00:44:02] states it correctly

[00:44:03] when she says, the

[00:44:04] prophets were God's

[00:44:05] pen men and not his

[00:44:06] pens.

[00:44:08] We do not find

[00:44:09] word for word dictation

[00:44:10] in the Bible.

[00:44:11] We do not find word

[00:44:12] for word dictation in

[00:44:13] the spirit of prophecy.

[00:44:14] Granted that there's a

[00:44:15] mystery here that no

[00:44:16] man can explain.

[00:44:17] I have sat in a

[00:44:19] university classroom

[00:44:20] three successive days

[00:44:21] while a group of

[00:44:22] doctoral candidates

[00:44:23] under the leadership

[00:44:23] of a PhD struggled

[00:44:25] with that question.

[00:44:26] How can you

[00:44:27] precisely define

[00:44:30] inspiration?

[00:44:32] Where does the

[00:44:33] work of the Holy

[00:44:34] Spirit end and where

[00:44:35] does the work of the

[00:44:36] human mind begin?

[00:44:37] And they can't do it.

[00:44:38] They can't do it.

[00:44:39] It's impossible.

[00:44:40] There are other things

[00:44:41] like that that we

[00:44:42] cannot explain.

[00:44:43] Where in the nature

[00:44:44] of Jesus Christ did

[00:44:45] the divine end and

[00:44:47] the human begin?

[00:44:47] We can't define that

[00:44:49] either.

[00:44:49] We can define the

[00:44:50] outer boundaries.

[00:44:51] We cannot define the

[00:44:52] inner boundaries.

[00:44:52] We can tell you that

[00:44:53] he was human.

[00:44:54] We can tell you he was

[00:44:54] divine.

[00:44:55] We cannot say his

[00:44:56] humanity came right

[00:44:57] to here and that's

[00:44:58] where his divinity

[00:44:58] started.

[00:44:59] We can't do that.

[00:45:00] And in the problem

[00:45:06] we can tell you that

[00:45:07] grace is important

[00:45:08] here.

[00:45:08] We can define the

[00:45:09] outer boundaries.

[00:45:10] We cannot tell you

[00:45:10] where works end and

[00:45:12] grace begin, where

[00:45:12] grace end and works

[00:45:13] begin.

[00:45:13] It's impossible.

[00:45:14] And so this is just

[00:45:15] another one of those

[00:45:16] things we have to

[00:45:17] live with.

[00:45:17] We cannot define

[00:45:18] inspiration to the

[00:45:20] point where we can

[00:45:21] say exactly where the

[00:45:23] divine influence on a

[00:45:24] human mind ends and

[00:45:25] the human mind takes

[00:45:26] over.

[00:45:26] We can't do that.

[00:45:27] So we have to just

[00:45:28] take that the way we

[00:45:29] find it and not worry

[00:45:30] about it.

[00:45:32] Now, with all of that

[00:45:33] is a background, with

[00:45:34] all of that is a

[00:45:34] foundation, I ask you

[00:45:37] to take a look at

[00:45:38] 1844.

[00:45:41] What we said about

[00:45:42] the people and the

[00:45:43] situation and the

[00:45:44] Lord's problem in the

[00:45:45] time of Moses is

[00:45:46] applicable all over

[00:45:47] again.

[00:45:49] The time has run out.

[00:45:51] It's time for that

[00:45:52] special people to be

[00:45:53] called out to take

[00:45:55] that special message

[00:45:55] to all the world

[00:45:56] and there's nobody

[00:45:57] on earth prepared to

[00:45:58] do it.

[00:45:59] The Methodists

[00:46:00] couldn't do it.

[00:46:00] The Baptists

[00:46:01] couldn't do it.

[00:46:01] The Presbyterians

[00:46:02] couldn't do it.

[00:46:03] The Catholics

[00:46:03] couldn't do it.

[00:46:04] Nobody on earth, as

[00:46:06] the situation stood at

[00:46:07] that time, was

[00:46:08] prepared to take the

[00:46:08] three angels'

[00:46:09] messages to the

[00:46:10] world and yet the

[00:46:12] time had come that

[00:46:12] they were supposed to

[00:46:13] go to the world.

[00:46:15] So God had a work to

[00:46:16] do and he had a

[00:46:17] time frame to stay

[00:46:18] within.

[00:46:19] He had a schedule

[00:46:20] that he had to keep.

[00:46:21] So what does he do?

[00:46:22] He did the very same

[00:46:23] thing he did in Moses'

[00:46:24] time.

[00:46:25] He said, it's time for

[00:46:25] me to select a prophet.

[00:46:28] We spent, for you folk

[00:46:29] who have come in later,

[00:46:29] we spent the first

[00:46:30] half of our message

[00:46:31] tonight pointing out

[00:46:32] how God has used

[00:46:33] prophets all the way

[00:46:35] down through the stream

[00:46:36] of time.

[00:46:37] God has used

[00:46:38] prophets to tell his

[00:46:39] people what to do

[00:46:40] and he has used them

[00:46:41] to tell us what he is

[00:46:43] going to do and that's

[00:46:44] what we call a plan of

[00:46:45] salvation or revelation

[00:46:47] to us.

[00:46:49] So in 1844, the time of

[00:46:51] the prophetic statements

[00:46:53] had run out.

[00:46:54] The predictions had come

[00:46:55] to their fulfillment.

[00:46:56] It's time now for that

[00:46:58] people to come on the

[00:46:59] scene and start carrying

[00:47:02] the three angels'

[00:47:02] messages to all the

[00:47:03] world and there's

[00:47:04] nobody who will do it,

[00:47:04] nobody who could do it.

[00:47:06] It would be impossible.

[00:47:08] You have to remember

[00:47:08] that even Luther and

[00:47:09] Calvin and Wycliffe and

[00:47:12] Wesley, great as they

[00:47:13] were, had no

[00:47:14] comprehension of the

[00:47:15] sanctuary.

[00:47:16] And before anybody

[00:47:17] could understand the

[00:47:18] 1844 message and take

[00:47:19] the three angels'

[00:47:20] message to the world,

[00:47:21] they had to understand

[00:47:22] the sanctuary.

[00:47:23] That wouldn't be

[00:47:24] possible for them to do

[00:47:25] it otherwise.

[00:47:26] And so God began his

[00:47:28] work and there's a

[00:47:29] similarity.

[00:47:30] First he began by

[00:47:31] gathering a people.

[00:47:34] Are you with me?

[00:47:35] He gathered a people

[00:47:36] through the preaching

[00:47:37] of the Millerites and

[00:47:39] then he did the work

[00:47:40] of Gideon.

[00:47:41] He sifted the people.

[00:47:44] You remember Gideon

[00:47:45] with his 30,000 which

[00:47:46] came down to 300?

[00:47:49] God gathered a people

[00:47:51] and then he sifted the

[00:47:52] people and when he got

[00:47:53] down to his 300 he

[00:47:54] said, all right, I can

[00:47:55] work with these.

[00:47:56] And he set a prophet

[00:47:57] among them.

[00:47:59] And they did incredible

[00:48:00] things.

[00:48:01] Just like had been done

[00:48:02] back in the very

[00:48:03] beginning of this sort

[00:48:05] of thing in the exodus

[00:48:06] out of Egypt.

[00:48:07] The prophets who

[00:48:08] followed Moses did

[00:48:08] incredible things.

[00:48:10] The Advent people have

[00:48:12] done incredible things.

[00:48:13] Let's not forget that

[00:48:14] and all of the stress

[00:48:15] and strain that we're

[00:48:16] under now.

[00:48:16] Let's not forget the

[00:48:17] past.

[00:48:18] Let's not project the

[00:48:20] present back into the

[00:48:21] past because it was

[00:48:22] very different.

[00:48:22] Just stop and think.

[00:48:23] I have in my

[00:48:25] library a Seventh-day

[00:48:27] Adventist yearbook up

[00:48:29] until the year 1990.

[00:48:32] I don't buy them every

[00:48:34] year because they're too

[00:48:34] expensive and they don't

[00:48:35] change that much in one

[00:48:37] year as far as I'm

[00:48:37] concerned.

[00:48:38] So I took a period of

[00:48:41] 130 years from 1860 to

[00:48:45] 1990.

[00:48:47] During that period of

[00:48:49] years, 130 years, the

[00:48:52] Advent people under the

[00:48:53] goading and the coaxing

[00:48:55] and the guiding of a

[00:48:57] prophet started a new

[00:48:59] publishing house every

[00:49:00] six years.

[00:49:01] They started a new

[00:49:03] college or university

[00:49:04] every four years.

[00:49:05] Are you getting this,

[00:49:06] folks, in your mind?

[00:49:08] Here is a chosen

[00:49:10] messenger of the Lord

[00:49:11] who only went to the

[00:49:12] fourth grade in school.

[00:49:13] people.

[00:49:14] And she, under the

[00:49:16] Lord's guidance, is

[00:49:17] demanding that we create

[00:49:18] colleges and universities

[00:49:20] and so on and on.

[00:49:22] And the people are

[00:49:23] responding with a new

[00:49:24] college or university

[00:49:25] every four years.

[00:49:27] They built a new clinic or

[00:49:29] dispensary every two years.

[00:49:31] They built a new high

[00:49:33] school or academy every 50

[00:49:35] days.

[00:49:36] They built a new primary

[00:49:37] school every 12 days.

[00:49:39] They built a new church

[00:49:41] every one and one half

[00:49:42] days for 130 years,

[00:49:45] folks.

[00:49:46] They built a new

[00:49:47] Sabbath school every 18

[00:49:49] hours for 130 years.

[00:49:53] We better stop there

[00:49:54] because it's not like that

[00:49:55] anymore.

[00:49:56] But the point I'm trying to

[00:49:57] tell you is when people

[00:50:01] know that God has sent

[00:50:03] them a prophet and when

[00:50:04] they listen to that

[00:50:05] prophet, incredible things

[00:50:07] are accomplished.

[00:50:08] Absolutely incredible

[00:50:09] things are accomplished.

[00:50:10] Now, we noted when we

[00:50:12] talked about Moses and

[00:50:13] the prophets of his time,

[00:50:14] they not only showed us

[00:50:15] what God wanted the

[00:50:16] people to do, they

[00:50:19] showed us what God

[00:50:20] would do, which is what

[00:50:21] we call the Bible, the

[00:50:23] plan of salvation,

[00:50:24] revelation.

[00:50:25] And in our time, the

[00:50:27] Lord had to use the same

[00:50:28] method.

[00:50:28] And here's where there

[00:50:29] is an enormous

[00:50:30] misunderstanding in our

[00:50:31] time.

[00:50:32] And here's where I want

[00:50:32] to spend a few moments

[00:50:33] reflecting with you.

[00:50:35] There has been an

[00:50:36] attempt made.

[00:50:37] And there still is being

[00:50:38] an attempt made in our

[00:50:39] church to tell us that

[00:50:44] Ellen White was a prophet,

[00:50:45] but she was different

[00:50:46] from all other prophets.

[00:50:48] The other prophets told

[00:50:49] us what God wanted us to

[00:50:51] do and they told us what

[00:50:52] God is going to do, but

[00:50:53] she couldn't do that.

[00:50:55] She was limited.

[00:50:57] She was not supposed to

[00:50:58] tell us what God is going

[00:50:59] to do.

[00:50:59] In other words, she was

[00:51:00] not supposed to help us

[00:51:01] with doctrines.

[00:51:03] Ellen White was not a

[00:51:04] theologian.

[00:51:05] That's what they said to me

[00:51:06] at the seminary.

[00:51:07] I said, who needs to be a

[00:51:08] theologian?

[00:51:09] Thank God she wasn't.

[00:51:10] People sometimes call me a

[00:51:12] theologian.

[00:51:12] I'd rather be called an

[00:51:13] evangelist, to be honest

[00:51:14] with you.

[00:51:14] I spent 15 years in

[00:51:15] evangelism, the best years

[00:51:17] of my life, I think.

[00:51:19] And there may be something

[00:51:20] better ahead.

[00:51:21] I don't know.

[00:51:22] But anyway, theologians

[00:51:24] don't have a very good

[00:51:24] record in this world's

[00:51:25] history if you stop and

[00:51:26] think about it.

[00:51:27] They did some good

[00:51:29] combined with some

[00:51:29] horrible blunders.

[00:51:32] Calvin, greatest mind of

[00:51:34] the Reformation so far as I

[00:51:35] think.

[00:51:35] You might disagree on

[00:51:36] that, but that's how I

[00:51:37] see it.

[00:51:38] But how he messed up on

[00:51:40] predestination.

[00:51:41] And Luther did the same

[00:51:43] thing.

[00:51:43] Luther was predestinationist

[00:51:45] too.

[00:51:45] And sometimes people will

[00:51:47] say, Ellen White is

[00:51:48] following Calvin.

[00:51:49] That's true.

[00:51:50] She follows Calvin right

[00:51:52] up to the point where

[00:51:53] Calvin goes into a ditch

[00:51:54] and she says, I'm not

[00:51:55] going with you into that

[00:51:56] ditch.

[00:51:57] People say, Ellen White is

[00:51:58] following Luther, and

[00:51:59] that's true.

[00:52:00] She follows Luther until

[00:52:01] Luther goes into the

[00:52:01] ditch and she stops

[00:52:02] right there.

[00:52:03] I won't go into that

[00:52:03] ditch with you, Mr.

[00:52:05] Luther.

[00:52:06] And so, looking at the

[00:52:09] prophet, what I want to

[00:52:10] try to show you now, and

[00:52:10] I hope to be able to

[00:52:11] demonstrate this to your

[00:52:13] full satisfaction.

[00:52:15] We have said that back in

[00:52:17] the days of old, nobody

[00:52:19] sat down and figured it

[00:52:20] out.

[00:52:23] And in 1844 to 1850,

[00:52:26] nobody sat down and

[00:52:27] figured it out.

[00:52:28] Don't ever let anybody

[00:52:29] sell you that stuff.

[00:52:32] They got it from the

[00:52:34] prophet.

[00:52:34] prophet.

[00:52:36] I know that sounds like

[00:52:38] something very strange.

[00:52:40] Selected Messages, volume

[00:52:41] one, page 206, tells us

[00:52:43] all about it, volume one,

[00:52:44] page 206.

[00:52:44] But before we go to

[00:52:45] there, let's go to

[00:52:46] Maranatha, page 16.

[00:52:49] You say, well, why?

[00:52:51] We've heard about those

[00:52:52] Bible conferences.

[00:52:53] Sure, Bible conferences.

[00:52:54] They had 22 Bible

[00:52:55] conferences in about four

[00:52:56] years, five years.

[00:52:57] They were good.

[00:52:58] They were wonderful.

[00:52:59] But they did not figure

[00:53:00] it out.

[00:53:04] Why didn't they figure it

[00:53:05] out?

[00:53:05] Well, here's an

[00:53:05] explanation.

[00:53:06] Maranatha, page 16.

[00:53:10] Not infrequently the

[00:53:12] minds of the people and

[00:53:13] even of God's servants

[00:53:14] are so blinded by human

[00:53:17] opinions, the traditions

[00:53:19] and false teaching of

[00:53:20] men that they are able

[00:53:22] only partially to grasp

[00:53:24] the great things which he

[00:53:25] has revealed in his

[00:53:26] word.

[00:53:29] The experience of

[00:53:30] William Miller is a

[00:53:31] very clear demonstration

[00:53:32] of that.

[00:53:34] He had a lot of

[00:53:35] things, like they say in

[00:53:36] Australia, right spot on.

[00:53:38] Do you see that in

[00:53:39] England too?

[00:53:40] Right spot on.

[00:53:42] But he accepted what had

[00:53:44] been passed down to him by

[00:53:46] the churches about where

[00:53:47] the sanctuary was, what

[00:53:48] the sanctuary was, and that

[00:53:49] threw him off.

[00:53:50] So he thought the

[00:53:51] sanctuary was on earth.

[00:53:53] His problem was accepting

[00:53:55] an idea because it was in

[00:53:56] the church, because it had

[00:53:57] been in the church for

[00:53:57] hundreds of years.

[00:53:59] So he thought it must be

[00:54:00] right, and he didn't check

[00:54:01] it out.

[00:54:01] He should have checked

[00:54:02] it out.

[00:54:02] Well, she comments on

[00:54:04] that.

[00:54:05] She comments on the

[00:54:06] disciples having the same

[00:54:07] problem.

[00:54:08] But then I want to go to

[00:54:09] Selected Messages, volume

[00:54:11] 1, page 206, and I want

[00:54:12] you to listen very, very

[00:54:13] carefully to this

[00:54:14] description of those

[00:54:15] Bible conferences.

[00:54:17] There were 22 Bible

[00:54:17] conferences.

[00:54:18] We have a record of

[00:54:20] Ellen White's attending

[00:54:21] all but one of them,

[00:54:22] and we have no doubt she

[00:54:23] was there as well.

[00:54:24] The record probably was

[00:54:25] not reported to us.

[00:54:27] There were six in 1848.

[00:54:29] There were six in 1849.

[00:54:31] There were 10 in 1850.

[00:54:33] Total of 22.

[00:54:35] And here is how she

[00:54:37] describes them.

[00:54:41] Many of our people do

[00:54:43] not realize how firmly the

[00:54:45] foundation of our faith has

[00:54:46] been laid.

[00:54:48] My husband, James White,

[00:54:50] Elder Joseph Bates, Father

[00:54:52] Pierce, Elder Hiram Edson,

[00:54:54] and others who were keen,

[00:54:56] noble, and true were among

[00:54:58] those who, after the passing

[00:55:00] of the time in 1844,

[00:55:02] searched for the truth as

[00:55:03] for hidden treasure.

[00:55:04] Excuse me.

[00:55:07] I met with them, and we

[00:55:10] studied and prayed

[00:55:10] earnestly.

[00:55:12] Often we remained together

[00:55:13] until late at night and

[00:55:15] sometimes through the

[00:55:16] entire night, praying for

[00:55:17] light and studying the

[00:55:18] word.

[00:55:20] All right.

[00:55:21] That's taken from

[00:55:22] Selected Messages, volume

[00:55:23] 1.

[00:55:23] On my next page, I've got

[00:55:24] Movement of Destiny, page

[00:55:26] 110.

[00:55:28] Movement of Destiny,

[00:55:29] written by our great

[00:55:30] scholar, Dr. Leroy Edwin

[00:55:31] Frum.

[00:55:32] And up to that point, he

[00:55:34] quotes it just like she

[00:55:35] wrote it.

[00:55:36] But then something changes.

[00:55:38] Let me go on and show you

[00:55:40] how she went on.

[00:55:43] Again and again, these

[00:55:45] brethren came together to

[00:55:46] study the Bible in order

[00:55:49] that they might know its

[00:55:50] meaning and be prepared to

[00:55:51] teach it with power.

[00:55:53] When they came to the

[00:55:54] point in their study where

[00:55:56] they said,

[00:55:56] we can do nothing more,

[00:55:59] they were stuck.

[00:56:01] They were stuck.

[00:56:02] They couldn't figure it

[00:56:04] out.

[00:56:05] We can do nothing more.

[00:56:07] The Spirit of the Lord

[00:56:09] would come upon me.

[00:56:10] I would be taken off in

[00:56:12] vision and a clear

[00:56:13] explanation of the

[00:56:14] passages we had been

[00:56:15] studying would be given

[00:56:16] me with instruction as

[00:56:18] to how we were to labor

[00:56:19] and teach effectively.

[00:56:20] Did they just figure it

[00:56:22] out?

[00:56:22] No way.

[00:56:24] They were good,

[00:56:25] honest, diligent students

[00:56:27] of the Bible, but they

[00:56:28] had too many misconceptions

[00:56:29] in their mind, passed on

[00:56:30] from their churches, and

[00:56:33] they just couldn't.

[00:56:34] I talked to a professor

[00:56:36] at Andrews about this one

[00:56:37] day, one evening in his

[00:56:38] home.

[00:56:39] I had sort of challenged

[00:56:42] something he said in

[00:56:42] class, which is a dangerous

[00:56:43] thing to do if you want to

[00:56:44] get a grade, you know.

[00:56:46] So he invited me to come

[00:56:47] to his home that evening

[00:56:48] and talk about it, and I

[00:56:50] pointed out to him that

[00:56:51] my problem was that

[00:56:53] what he was teaching

[00:56:54] did not agree with

[00:56:54] what's in the spirit of

[00:56:55] prophecy on certain

[00:56:56] points.

[00:56:58] He said, well, I don't

[00:56:59] know any reason why we

[00:56:59] have to run to Ellen White

[00:57:00] every time we have a

[00:57:01] question.

[00:57:02] I think we ought to be

[00:57:03] able to figure it out for

[00:57:04] ourselves.

[00:57:06] I agree we ought to be

[00:57:08] able to figure it out

[00:57:09] for ourselves, but we are

[00:57:10] not able to figure it out

[00:57:11] for ourselves.

[00:57:13] We just don't have that

[00:57:14] much brain power.

[00:57:16] In this generation, we're

[00:57:17] down in the dregs of

[00:57:18] humanity.

[00:57:19] We've got too much

[00:57:21] incorrect information.

[00:57:22] stored in our brain cells

[00:57:23] that comes to us from

[00:57:24] different places.

[00:57:26] And so if the prophet is

[00:57:27] not on the job, we're

[00:57:29] doomed.

[00:57:30] They said, we can't do

[00:57:32] anything more.

[00:57:33] We can do nothing more.

[00:57:34] Then you heard what

[00:57:34] happened.

[00:57:35] Going on.

[00:57:36] Thus light was given

[00:57:38] that helped us to

[00:57:39] understand the scriptures

[00:57:40] in regard to Christ, his

[00:57:42] mission, and his

[00:57:43] priesthood.

[00:57:44] A line of truth

[00:57:46] extending from that

[00:57:47] time to the time when

[00:57:48] we shall enter the city

[00:57:49] of God was made

[00:57:51] plain to me, and I

[00:57:52] gave to others the

[00:57:53] instruction the Lord had

[00:57:54] given me.

[00:57:55] Our good Dr. Froome

[00:57:57] leaves all that out,

[00:57:59] and he goes like this.

[00:58:02] Often we remain together

[00:58:03] until late at night,

[00:58:05] sometimes through the

[00:58:06] entire night, praying

[00:58:07] for light and studying

[00:58:07] the word dot, dot, dot,

[00:58:09] something left out here.

[00:58:10] During this whole time,

[00:58:11] I could not understand the

[00:58:12] reasoning of the

[00:58:13] brethren.

[00:58:14] See, he says, they

[00:58:16] figured it out, and she

[00:58:18] said, you're right.

[00:58:20] And they went on to the

[00:58:21] next doctor, and they

[00:58:22] figured it all out, and

[00:58:24] she said, you got it

[00:58:25] right, fellas.

[00:58:25] Move on.

[00:58:26] And they went to the

[00:58:27] next one and figured it

[00:58:28] all out, and she said,

[00:58:29] you're right, you're

[00:58:30] right on, you're spot

[00:58:30] on.

[00:58:31] Go ahead.

[00:58:32] That's a lot of hooey,

[00:58:34] as we say in America.

[00:58:35] What do you say here?

[00:58:37] Applesauce or rubbish?

[00:58:39] Okay, rubbish.

[00:58:40] That's a lot of rubbish.

[00:58:42] It's fiction.

[00:58:43] It did not happen that

[00:58:44] way.

[00:58:45] They did not figure it

[00:58:47] out.

[00:58:48] They had to have help

[00:58:49] from the prophet, just

[00:58:50] like Moses had to give

[00:58:51] it to them back in his

[00:58:53] time.

[00:58:54] If there had been no

[00:58:55] Moses, there would have

[00:58:56] been no Exodus.

[00:58:58] And the children of

[00:58:59] Abraham would have sunk

[00:59:00] into the sands of

[00:59:01] Egypt and never been

[00:59:02] heard from again.

[00:59:04] We wouldn't have any

[00:59:05] Bible.

[00:59:05] We wouldn't have any

[00:59:06] knowledge of the plan

[00:59:07] of salvation.

[00:59:08] God had to use a

[00:59:10] prophet, and without a

[00:59:11] prophet, the job

[00:59:11] wouldn't have been

[00:59:12] done.

[00:59:13] And so, in 1844 to

[00:59:15] 1850 and onward, Ellen

[00:59:17] White was chosen by God

[00:59:18] to do the job, and if

[00:59:19] there had been no

[00:59:19] prophet, there would

[00:59:20] have been no Advent

[00:59:21] movement.

[00:59:22] They did not figure it

[00:59:23] out, not by a million

[00:59:24] miles.

[00:59:25] And they could not have

[00:59:27] figured it out in any

[00:59:28] way.

[00:59:29] And so, that way gave

[00:59:33] them a confidence that

[00:59:36] was uncanny.

[00:59:38] You take just from her

[00:59:40] own writings.

[00:59:41] Our pioneers were

[00:59:43] confident.

[00:59:43] They were not

[00:59:44] braggadocio.

[00:59:45] They were not

[00:59:46] confident in themselves,

[00:59:47] but they would face

[00:59:48] anybody anywhere about

[00:59:49] the Bible topic because

[00:59:50] they knew they had it

[00:59:51] from God.

[00:59:52] They knew they

[00:59:53] couldn't be wrong.

[00:59:54] They knew they

[00:59:55] couldn't be proven

[00:59:56] wrong.

[00:59:56] They would face up to

[00:59:57] a theologian or a

[00:59:57] priest or a minister

[00:59:58] anywhere, anytime,

[01:00:00] anybody wanted to face

[01:00:00] them.

[01:00:01] They would meet him.

[01:00:02] And in her writings,

[01:00:03] from Selected

[01:00:04] Messages, Volume 1,

[01:00:05] beginning on page 201,

[01:00:06] you go for a few

[01:00:07] pages, you find lines

[01:00:08] like these.

[01:00:09] The foundation laid

[01:00:11] by careful study and

[01:00:14] revelation.

[01:00:15] Oh, God did not bless

[01:00:17] ignorance.

[01:00:18] God did not encourage

[01:00:19] them to be lazy, but

[01:00:20] when they had done the

[01:00:21] very best they could do

[01:00:22] and when they admitted

[01:00:23] it wasn't good enough,

[01:00:25] then God took over from

[01:00:26] there.

[01:00:27] The principles God has

[01:00:29] revealed.

[01:00:30] The foundation built by

[01:00:32] the master worker,

[01:00:34] attested by the miraculous

[01:00:36] working of the Holy

[01:00:37] Spirit, brought out in the

[01:00:39] power of the Holy

[01:00:40] Spirit, based on

[01:00:41] unquestionable authority.

[01:00:44] The truths God has

[01:00:46] revealed to us, light

[01:00:47] direct from heaven.

[01:00:49] And from Manuscript

[01:00:50] Releases, Volume 1,

[01:00:51] page 51 and onward,

[01:00:54] the truths given to us,

[01:00:57] demonstrated by the Holy

[01:00:58] Spirit, truths that He has

[01:01:00] given, pillars that He has

[01:01:02] established, foundation

[01:01:03] which God has established,

[01:01:05] divine light that God has

[01:01:07] given, truth given by the

[01:01:09] Lord, truth entrusted to

[01:01:11] His faithful followers.

[01:01:13] So what happened next?

[01:01:15] Next, after those Bible

[01:01:16] conferences were over,

[01:01:19] James and Ellen White took

[01:01:20] up their ministry of

[01:01:21] traveling, traveling,

[01:01:23] traveling, traveling,

[01:01:23] traveling, hardly had a

[01:01:24] home of any kind at all,

[01:01:26] going from place to place

[01:01:27] meeting with the home

[01:01:28] churches, little home

[01:01:30] churches all over the

[01:01:31] place, dealing with

[01:01:33] problems.

[01:01:34] What kind of problems?

[01:01:36] Theological problems.

[01:01:39] Points of doctrine.

[01:01:41] And that's recorded.

[01:01:43] If you have the money and

[01:01:44] the time and can get a

[01:01:46] hold of the new, fairly

[01:01:47] new autobiography, not

[01:01:49] autobiography, but biography

[01:01:50] of Ellen White written by

[01:01:52] Arthur White, her grandson,

[01:01:54] that will lay it all out

[01:01:55] before you in clear detail.

[01:01:58] Traveling, traveling,

[01:01:59] traveling, traveling,

[01:02:00] traveling, meeting with

[01:02:01] home church after home

[01:02:02] church after home

[01:02:02] church, and practically

[01:02:04] every home church had

[01:02:05] some crazy idea.

[01:02:07] And Ellen White sometimes

[01:02:09] would go into vision right

[01:02:10] before their eyes and

[01:02:12] point out to them who was

[01:02:13] right and who was wrong.

[01:02:15] She was dealing with

[01:02:17] theological problems for

[01:02:19] years and years and

[01:02:20] years.

[01:02:22] Something else.

[01:02:23] This is a little side

[01:02:24] note, a little detour here.

[01:02:27] Parentheses.

[01:02:27] Something else you will

[01:02:28] notice there.

[01:02:29] I watched this with

[01:02:30] fascination.

[01:02:32] For at least the first

[01:02:33] 50 years or a little

[01:02:34] more of our church's

[01:02:36] development, they had no

[01:02:38] pastors.

[01:02:39] Did you know that?

[01:02:41] They were led by laymen

[01:02:43] in every place.

[01:02:45] That made me feel

[01:02:46] confident about our

[01:02:47] present work.

[01:02:49] She dealt with theological

[01:02:51] problems in those home

[01:02:52] churches.

[01:02:52] She dealt with theological

[01:02:53] problems on into modern

[01:02:55] times in the general

[01:02:56] conferences.

[01:02:56] We had a problem with

[01:02:57] Elder Ballinger.

[01:02:58] You may remember reading

[01:02:59] about him while he was

[01:03:01] doing evangelistic work

[01:03:02] here in London.

[01:03:03] He preached a sermon one

[01:03:04] night on the 2300 days and

[01:03:06] came out very discouraged.

[01:03:07] He had did a very poor job

[01:03:10] of preaching on the 2300 days.

[01:03:12] He said afterward his mind

[01:03:13] wasn't clear on it at all.

[01:03:14] He couldn't do it well.

[01:03:16] And so he said to Elder

[01:03:20] Farnsworth, who was here

[01:03:21] also at that time, he said,

[01:03:22] I'm going to study that out.

[01:03:24] I'm going to study it out

[01:03:26] just like our pioneers did.

[01:03:29] I'm not going to use the

[01:03:30] spirit of prophecy.

[01:03:31] I'm just going to study it

[01:03:32] out like they did.

[01:03:33] If they could do it, I can

[01:03:34] do it too.

[01:03:34] But you see his mistake?

[01:03:36] They did not do it without

[01:03:38] the spirit of prophecy.

[01:03:39] They did it with the spirit

[01:03:41] of prophecy.

[01:03:42] Without the spirit of

[01:03:43] prophecy, he came out with

[01:03:44] horribly wrong conclusions.

[01:03:45] And he went to the

[01:03:46] general conference in 1905

[01:03:48] in Washington, D.C.,

[01:03:50] trying to convince the

[01:03:53] brethren there that his

[01:03:55] foolish notions were the

[01:03:56] truth.

[01:03:57] And Ellen White was told by

[01:03:59] the Lord to get on the

[01:04:00] train.

[01:04:00] She was about 75 years old.

[01:04:02] She had to come all the way

[01:04:03] out from California on a

[01:04:05] train and meet with the

[01:04:07] brethren and meet that

[01:04:09] challenge head on.

[01:04:10] She told Ellen White, you

[01:04:11] are mistaken.

[01:04:13] And she told the

[01:04:14] brethren assembled there

[01:04:15] where and why and how he

[01:04:17] was mistaken.

[01:04:17] And so the church was

[01:04:18] saved from a theological

[01:04:20] departure that would have

[01:04:22] been most devastating to

[01:04:23] us.

[01:04:24] And a similar thing happened

[01:04:26] in 1903 when Dr.

[01:04:28] Kellogg's pantheistic ideas

[01:04:31] were being circulated very

[01:04:33] strongly.

[01:04:35] Elder A.G.

[01:04:36] Daniels was president of

[01:04:37] the general conference at

[01:04:38] that time, and he had

[01:04:39] called a meeting in

[01:04:39] Washington of leading

[01:04:41] brethren to study ways to

[01:04:42] advance and improve the

[01:04:43] work.

[01:04:44] Well, that's fine.

[01:04:46] That's beautiful.

[01:04:46] But on the second day, as I

[01:04:48] remember, a group of men

[01:04:50] from Battle Creek arrived

[01:04:51] carrying Dr.

[01:04:52] Kellogg's book, The Living

[01:04:53] Temple, in their hands,

[01:04:54] fully determined they were

[01:04:55] going to push that down

[01:04:56] everybody's throat at the

[01:04:58] general conference.

[01:05:00] Elder Daniels was horrified.

[01:05:02] He didn't know what to do.

[01:05:03] He tells, as he writes about

[01:05:05] it, he said he went home that

[01:05:06] night feeling horribly

[01:05:07] depressed.

[01:05:09] When he got to his house, he

[01:05:11] found people smiling, and

[01:05:13] they said to him, help has

[01:05:14] come.

[01:05:15] They showed him two letters

[01:05:16] from Ellen White, which had

[01:05:17] arrived on the same day.

[01:05:19] I don't know whether she

[01:05:20] mailed them on the same day,

[01:05:21] but they got there on the

[01:05:22] same day.

[01:05:23] He opened up the letters, and

[01:05:25] he read to Dear Brother,

[01:05:26] this is what is wrong with

[01:05:27] Dr.

[01:05:28] Kellogg's ideas.

[01:05:30] He was overjoyed.

[01:05:31] He took that back to the

[01:05:32] conference the next morning, and

[01:05:33] he read it to the brethren, and

[01:05:34] the tears began to flow, and

[01:05:36] the sobs began to be heard as

[01:05:38] men began to confess that they

[01:05:39] were wrong, and even Dr.

[01:05:40] Kellogg himself confessed.

[01:05:41] He said, I'll take it off the

[01:05:42] market.

[01:05:44] He turned around and didn't

[01:05:45] do that, but at that time he

[01:05:46] was so impressed, he said, I'll

[01:05:47] take it off the market.

[01:05:49] This was a theological

[01:05:52] problem, okay?

[01:05:55] God used Ellen White to

[01:05:57] deliver his church from

[01:05:59] theological problems over and

[01:06:01] over and over and over again.

[01:06:02] Now, we mentioned before that

[01:06:05] in the days of yore, the old

[01:06:07] prophets Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah,

[01:06:10] they did wonderful things

[01:06:14] because God was inspiring the

[01:06:16] prophet telling them what to

[01:06:17] do.

[01:06:18] Sometimes they made mistakes.

[01:06:19] We pointed out that they made

[01:06:21] mistakes when they came to the

[01:06:23] place, and they're thinking

[01:06:24] where they said, we don't need

[01:06:25] the prophet anymore.

[01:06:26] You've got us now with our

[01:06:28] brilliant minds.

[01:06:29] Who needs a prophet now?

[01:06:30] And so they led the church to

[01:06:32] disaster time and time again.

[01:06:34] For several decades now, we have

[01:06:36] been having that same message

[01:06:38] presented to us over and over

[01:06:40] again.

[01:06:41] a generation of pastors, a

[01:06:44] generation of teachers, a

[01:06:45] generation of church leaders,

[01:06:48] who, if they don't come right

[01:06:50] out brazenly and boldly and say

[01:06:52] it as some will, let us know

[01:06:56] very clearly by their departure

[01:06:58] from the spirit of prophecy that

[01:06:59] they think we don't need it

[01:07:00] anymore.

[01:07:02] Granted that they are brilliant,

[01:07:04] but they're not as brilliant as

[01:07:05] the devil is.

[01:07:07] They're brilliant, they're well

[01:07:08] educated, and they're self-

[01:07:11] confident.

[01:07:13] Very, very self-confident.

[01:07:17] And the message seems to be, we

[01:07:19] understand, folks, that before we

[01:07:21] came along, you had to have

[01:07:23] Ellen White, but you've got us

[01:07:24] now.

[01:07:25] You've got us.

[01:07:26] You don't need Ellen White

[01:07:27] anymore.

[01:07:28] Just take us and everything's

[01:07:29] going to be fine.

[01:07:30] And so they proposed to lead us

[01:07:33] straight to the gates of hell.

[01:07:36] I hope that's not too strong a

[01:07:37] statement.

[01:07:38] I hope that doesn't offend

[01:07:39] anybody, but that's what I

[01:07:40] believe, folks.

[01:07:41] And I've been working at this

[01:07:43] thing for quite a few years

[01:07:44] now.

[01:07:45] Before we take them too

[01:07:46] seriously, let's move ahead in

[01:07:48] our description of what they're

[01:07:51] up against in our time.

[01:07:54] The power, the intellectual power

[01:07:57] of Satan in our time.

[01:08:01] Testimonies, volume 2, page 172.

[01:08:05] During his experience of nearly

[01:08:07] 6,000 years, he has lost none of

[01:08:10] his skill and shrewdness.

[01:08:13] Am I talking loud enough now?

[01:08:15] Okay.

[01:08:17] Patriarchs and Prophets 457.

[01:08:19] He has studied with fiendish

[01:08:22] intensity for 6,000 years.

[01:08:25] We see a man study 30, 40, 50

[01:08:27] years.

[01:08:28] He comes up with a master's degree,

[01:08:29] a doctor's degree.

[01:08:30] We think that's pretty good.

[01:08:31] What if he kept going for 6,000

[01:08:33] years in his study?

[01:08:36] Testimonies, volume 4, page 270.

[01:08:38] He has the accumulated knowledge

[01:08:40] of the ages.

[01:08:44] Spiritual Gifts, volume 2, page 277.

[01:08:47] His, say, listen to this.

[01:08:49] His deceptive power is now tenfold

[01:08:53] greater than in apostolic times.

[01:08:55] Wow.

[01:08:59] And if you want to make a

[01:09:00] comparison with our PhDs, I've got a

[01:09:02] PhD myself, so don't take me wrong.

[01:09:06] DA 219, desire of ages 219.

[01:09:08] He has intellectual power no man has

[01:09:12] ever equaled.

[01:09:14] Testimonies, volume 2, page 172.

[01:09:16] He is ready and able to teach those

[01:09:19] who reject God's counsels.

[01:09:22] You don't need Ellen White anymore.

[01:09:24] You've got us.

[01:09:26] Run for your life.

[01:09:28] You've got them.

[01:09:32] Testimonies, volume 9, page 67, 68.

[01:09:35] He leads learned men astray.

[01:09:38] Was Dr. Kellogg a learned man?

[01:09:42] Possibly the most brilliant mind

[01:09:43] we've ever had in our church.

[01:09:45] I say possibly.

[01:09:46] I can't say exactly, but he surely

[01:09:48] was right up there among a handful

[01:09:49] of the most brilliant men we've ever

[01:09:51] had in our church.

[01:09:52] And yet he got hooked on age-old

[01:09:55] pantheism.

[01:09:57] Incredible.

[01:10:00] Volume 7 of the Bible Commentary,

[01:10:02] page 915.

[01:10:04] It was a very intellectual being

[01:10:07] that finally became a rebel.

[01:10:09] That's Satan.

[01:10:10] And many a mind of superior

[01:10:13] intellectual attainments

[01:10:15] is now being led captive by his power.

[01:10:19] Superior intellectual attainments.

[01:10:21] To the devil.

[01:10:22] Here, sucker.

[01:10:23] Go this way.

[01:10:24] That's all he has to do.

[01:10:25] What does he care for

[01:10:27] are superior intellectual attainments?

[01:10:29] He laughs at it.

[01:10:31] Now there's another aspect of this

[01:10:33] and I'm fast running out of time,

[01:10:35] but I'm going to squeeze this in

[01:10:36] if I can.

[01:10:38] There's a principle stated in the Bible

[01:10:41] and a principle stated

[01:10:43] in the spirit of prophecy

[01:10:44] that it seems to me

[01:10:45] certainly applies to our time

[01:10:47] and our situation,

[01:10:48] but they're very, very awesome.

[01:10:50] But just let me show you.

[01:10:51] Would you turn to 2 Thessalonians 2,

[01:10:53] verses 10 to 11?

[01:10:58] 2 Thessalonians 2, verses 10 to 11.

[01:11:07] Let's read this slowly.

[01:11:11] And with all deceivableness

[01:11:13] of unrighteousness in them

[01:11:15] that perish,

[01:11:16] because they received not

[01:11:19] the love of the truth.

[01:11:21] Okay, number one.

[01:11:23] They received not

[01:11:25] the love of the truth.

[01:11:27] Does your pastor love

[01:11:29] the sanctuary truth?

[01:11:31] Does your pastor love

[01:11:33] the doctrine of sanctification

[01:11:34] that we find in the Bible?

[01:11:36] They received not

[01:11:38] the love of the truth.

[01:11:39] Then what happens?

[01:11:41] Verse 11.

[01:11:43] For this cause,

[01:11:45] God shall send them

[01:11:46] strong delusion

[01:11:47] that he should believe

[01:11:48] a lie.

[01:11:50] Because they receive

[01:11:52] not the love

[01:11:53] of the truth,

[01:11:54] they end up

[01:11:55] in a situation

[01:11:55] where they don't know

[01:11:57] what is truth.

[01:11:59] Folks,

[01:12:00] please wrap your head

[01:12:01] around that.

[01:12:02] Internalize that.

[01:12:03] get it deep down in your mind.

[01:12:06] They start

[01:12:07] by not loving the truth.

[01:12:09] They end up

[01:12:10] by not being able

[01:12:11] to tell what is truth.

[01:12:13] And I think that explains

[01:12:15] what we see around us.

[01:12:16] And Ellen White

[01:12:17] says the very same thing.

[01:12:19] Bible Training School.

[01:12:20] This is a journal

[01:12:21] you'll find in the vaults.

[01:12:23] Bible Training School

[01:12:24] of March 1, 1915.

[01:12:28] The mind

[01:12:29] that cherishes

[01:12:30] sentiments

[01:12:31] that tend to destroy

[01:12:32] the foundation

[01:12:33] of the faith

[01:12:34] that has made us

[01:12:34] what we are.

[01:12:35] By the way,

[01:12:36] if I should ask you,

[01:12:38] can you tell me

[01:12:38] what doctrine

[01:12:39] Ellen White says

[01:12:40] is the foundation

[01:12:41] that has made us

[01:12:42] what we are?

[01:12:44] Sanctuary.

[01:12:45] Sanctuary.

[01:12:47] The mind

[01:12:48] that cherishes

[01:12:49] sentiments

[01:12:50] that tend to destroy

[01:12:51] the foundation

[01:12:52] of the faith

[01:12:53] that has made us

[01:12:53] what we are

[01:12:54] becomes confused

[01:12:56] and cannot discern

[01:12:59] between truth

[01:12:59] and error.

[01:13:01] They don't know.

[01:13:03] They don't know

[01:13:04] they're telling something

[01:13:05] that's not true.

[01:13:06] They don't know

[01:13:07] they're contradicting truth.

[01:13:08] They just don't know

[01:13:10] what a condition

[01:13:11] to be in.

[01:13:14] What a condition

[01:13:15] to be in.

[01:13:15] And that's not

[01:13:16] the only place

[01:13:16] where she refers

[01:13:17] to that.

[01:13:18] Great Controversy 378.

[01:13:20] He who deliberately

[01:13:22] stifles his conviction

[01:13:23] of duty

[01:13:23] because it interferes

[01:13:25] with his inclinations

[01:13:27] will finally lose

[01:13:28] the power

[01:13:29] to distinguish

[01:13:30] between truth

[01:13:30] and error.

[01:13:31] They just don't know

[01:13:33] what's true.

[01:13:34] When they look at it

[01:13:35] when you show it to them

[01:13:36] they can't recognize it.

[01:13:40] Notebook leaflets

[01:13:40] page 1

[01:13:41] volume 1

[01:13:42] page 57

[01:13:43] the apostates

[01:13:44] are not able

[01:13:46] to distinguish

[01:13:46] the precious ore

[01:13:47] from the base metal.

[01:13:48] Review and Herald

[01:13:49] April 18

[01:13:51] 1893

[01:13:52] watch this one.

[01:13:54] By rejection

[01:13:56] of evidence

[01:13:56] the Jewish leaders

[01:13:57] lost their

[01:13:58] spiritual insight.

[01:13:59] Who lost their

[01:14:00] spiritual insight?

[01:14:01] Jewish leaders

[01:14:03] and could not

[01:14:05] discern between

[01:14:06] good and evil.

[01:14:07] Couldn't tell

[01:14:08] didn't know

[01:14:09] what a horrible

[01:14:12] condition to be in

[01:14:15] and what a horrible

[01:14:16] condition to have

[01:14:17] your pastor in

[01:14:18] or anybody who's

[01:14:19] trying to give you

[01:14:21] spiritual guidance.

[01:14:23] Review and Herald

[01:14:23] June 3

[01:14:24] 192

[01:14:24] Light rejected

[01:14:27] becomes to the

[01:14:28] rejecter

[01:14:29] darkness

[01:14:29] blackner than

[01:14:30] the darkness

[01:14:31] of midnight.

[01:14:33] There's more

[01:14:34] but I'll have to

[01:14:35] stop here

[01:14:35] in mercy.

[01:14:38] But folks

[01:14:39] this is where

[01:14:40] I'm trying to tie

[01:14:40] this together

[01:14:41] in your minds.

[01:14:43] Somebody comes

[01:14:44] along and says

[01:14:44] oh Ellen White

[01:14:45] has no authority

[01:14:46] over doctrine

[01:14:47] run for your

[01:14:48] life.

[01:14:51] Somebody comes

[01:14:52] along of course

[01:14:52] and puts it a

[01:14:53] different way

[01:14:53] and you'll hear

[01:14:54] this very very

[01:14:55] often.

[01:14:56] When you talk

[01:14:56] to them in

[01:14:57] such a manner

[01:14:58] as I'm talking

[01:14:58] to you tonight

[01:14:59] they say

[01:14:59] oh you're

[01:15:00] putting Ellen

[01:15:01] White above

[01:15:01] the Bible

[01:15:02] are you?

[01:15:03] You say

[01:15:03] no no no

[01:15:04] no no

[01:15:04] I'm putting

[01:15:05] Ellen White

[01:15:05] above you.

[01:15:07] That's different.

[01:15:08] I'm putting

[01:15:09] Ellen White

[01:15:10] above you doctor

[01:15:10] you good doctor

[01:15:11] with your PhD

[01:15:12] I'm saying

[01:15:13] Ellen White

[01:15:13] knows far

[01:15:14] more about

[01:15:14] the Bible

[01:15:14] than you ever

[01:15:15] can know

[01:15:16] or ever will

[01:15:16] know.

[01:15:17] Not because

[01:15:18] she was so

[01:15:18] gifted

[01:15:19] because God

[01:15:19] told her

[01:15:20] God taught

[01:15:21] her

[01:15:21] God instructed

[01:15:22] her.

[01:15:23] She was a

[01:15:23] simple handmaiden

[01:15:24] of the Lord

[01:15:25] but the Lord

[01:15:26] instructed her

[01:15:27] and gave her

[01:15:27] the message.

[01:15:29] Now that's

[01:15:29] a horrible

[01:15:30] horrible

[01:15:32] misapplication

[01:15:32] of an idea

[01:15:33] and I hope

[01:15:33] you'll be

[01:15:34] militant

[01:15:34] when anybody

[01:15:35] tries to

[01:15:36] pull that on

[01:15:36] you.

[01:15:38] Anybody

[01:15:38] says to you

[01:15:39] because

[01:15:40] they say

[01:15:41] that verse

[01:15:42] means so

[01:15:43] and so

[01:15:43] and you

[01:15:44] say I

[01:15:44] don't

[01:15:44] agree

[01:15:44] with you.

[01:15:45] Why

[01:15:45] don't

[01:15:45] you

[01:15:45] agree

[01:15:45] with me

[01:15:46] because

[01:15:46] Ellen

[01:15:46] Oh you're

[01:15:47] putting

[01:15:47] Ellen White

[01:15:48] above

[01:15:48] No I'm

[01:15:49] putting

[01:15:49] Ellen White

[01:15:49] above you.

[01:15:51] Let's get

[01:15:51] this straight

[01:15:52] buddy.

[01:15:53] I'm putting

[01:15:53] Ellen White

[01:15:54] above you

[01:15:54] with all of

[01:15:55] your degrees

[01:15:56] with all of

[01:15:56] your education

[01:15:57] with all of

[01:15:57] your intelligence.

[01:15:59] You're only

[01:15:59] knee high to

[01:16:00] Ellen White

[01:16:01] as far as

[01:16:01] the Bible

[01:16:01] is concerned

[01:16:02] because she

[01:16:03] was taught

[01:16:03] by God

[01:16:04] and you're

[01:16:04] not

[01:16:04] obviously

[01:16:05] not taught

[01:16:05] by God.

[01:16:07] Don't let

[01:16:07] anybody

[01:16:08] push that

[01:16:09] off on you.

[01:16:09] It's utter

[01:16:10] nonsense.

[01:16:11] My language

[01:16:12] gets kind of

[01:16:12] strong when

[01:16:13] I get on

[01:16:13] that subject.

[01:16:14] A brother

[01:16:14] wrote to

[01:16:14] me about

[01:16:15] that.

[01:16:16] Somebody

[01:16:17] was telling

[01:16:17] that to

[01:16:17] him.

[01:16:18] I wrote

[01:16:18] back.

[01:16:18] I said

[01:16:19] this is

[01:16:19] an imbecile

[01:16:20] accusation.

[01:16:21] It should

[01:16:22] be apparent

[01:16:23] to a high

[01:16:23] school senior

[01:16:24] that you're

[01:16:24] not putting

[01:16:24] Ellen White

[01:16:25] above the

[01:16:25] Bible.

[01:16:26] You're

[01:16:26] putting

[01:16:26] Ellen White

[01:16:26] above all

[01:16:27] other

[01:16:27] interpreters.

[01:16:28] You're

[01:16:29] saying her

[01:16:30] interpretation

[01:16:30] is the

[01:16:31] best.

[01:16:31] It's better

[01:16:32] than yours.

[01:16:34] I've got

[01:16:34] a doctor

[01:16:35] of philosophy

[01:16:36] degree.

[01:16:37] Calm down.

[01:16:38] Calm down.

[01:16:39] Calm down.

[01:16:39] You may

[01:16:40] have a doctor

[01:16:40] of philosophy

[01:16:40] degree but

[01:16:41] she had

[01:16:41] a G.O.D.

[01:16:42] degree.

[01:16:44] You've got

[01:16:44] a Ph.D.

[01:16:45] She had

[01:16:51] All right.

[01:16:51] I must

[01:16:52] stop.

[01:16:53] Does anybody

[01:16:53] want to ask

[01:16:54] a question

[01:16:54] before we

[01:16:55] close tonight?

[01:17:01] Yes.

[01:17:02] Satan's

[01:17:03] knowledge

[01:17:03] ten times

[01:17:03] greater than

[01:17:04] our

[01:17:05] in the

[01:17:06] apostolic

[01:17:06] times.

[01:17:14] You see

[01:17:15] how much

[01:17:15] material I've

[01:17:18] shared with

[01:17:18] you tonight?

[01:17:34] Let's see

[01:17:34] now.

[01:17:35] You want

[01:17:35] the one

[01:17:35] about compared

[01:17:36] with the

[01:17:36] apostles?

[01:17:43] I turned

[01:17:44] to the wrong

[01:17:44] page.

[01:17:45] I divided

[01:17:45] these into

[01:17:46] two pages.

[01:17:46] One about

[01:17:47] their time

[01:17:47] and one

[01:17:48] about our

[01:17:48] time.

[01:17:49] And I've

[01:17:50] got to turn

[01:17:51] to the one

[01:17:52] I can see

[01:17:53] that now.

[01:17:56] Spiritual

[01:17:57] Gifts

[01:17:57] 277.

[01:17:58] Volume 2.

[01:17:59] Volume 2

[01:18:00] of Spiritual

[01:18:01] Gifts.

[01:18:05] Here we

[01:18:06] have it.

[01:18:08] Yes.

[01:18:09] Spiritual

[01:18:09] Gifts.

[01:18:10] Volume 2

[01:18:10] page 277.

[01:18:11] His deceptive

[01:18:13] power is

[01:18:13] now tenfold

[01:18:15] greater than

[01:18:15] in apostolic

[01:18:16] times.

[01:18:18] It was bad

[01:18:19] enough then

[01:18:19] wasn't it?

[01:18:21] My.

[01:18:23] There's

[01:18:24] nobody on

[01:18:24] the earth

[01:18:25] today.

[01:18:25] There's no

[01:18:25] Einstein or

[01:18:26] anybody else

[01:18:27] who can stand

[01:18:28] up against

[01:18:28] Satan and

[01:18:29] try to

[01:18:29] outsmart him.

[01:18:30] Yes,

[01:18:30] brother?

[01:18:55] Now I'm

[01:18:56] going to

[01:18:56] briefly repeat

[01:18:57] your question

[01:18:57] so it'll

[01:18:58] be on the

[01:18:58] tape.

[01:18:58] Okay?

[01:19:19] Can we

[01:19:19] take this

[01:19:19] piece by

[01:19:20] piece?

[01:19:20] I need

[01:19:21] to get it

[01:19:21] on the

[01:19:22] tape otherwise

[01:19:22] people won't

[01:19:23] know what

[01:19:23] you said.

[01:19:24] It would

[01:19:25] be nice if

[01:19:25] we had a

[01:19:25] microphone for

[01:19:26] you over

[01:19:26] there.

[01:19:27] But this

[01:19:28] brother is

[01:19:28] raising a

[01:19:29] question in

[01:19:30] reference to

[01:19:30] the fact I

[01:19:31] would correct

[01:19:32] your description

[01:19:33] of what I

[01:19:34] said just to

[01:19:34] this degree.

[01:19:35] I said they

[01:19:36] did not

[01:19:37] figure it out

[01:19:37] by themselves.

[01:19:38] I didn't say

[01:19:38] that we

[01:19:39] cannot.

[01:19:39] I didn't

[01:19:40] say that

[01:19:40] anybody.

[01:19:40] I did

[01:19:41] say we

[01:19:41] cannot.

[01:19:43] Let me

[01:19:43] correct that.

[01:19:44] I did

[01:19:44] say we

[01:19:44] cannot.

[01:19:45] But I'm

[01:19:45] talking about

[01:19:46] a historical

[01:19:47] situation in

[01:19:47] which our

[01:19:48] doctrines were

[01:19:49] founded.

[01:19:50] And I'm

[01:19:51] pointing out

[01:19:51] that there

[01:19:52] are many,

[01:19:53] many voices

[01:19:53] telling us

[01:19:54] today that

[01:19:55] Ellen White

[01:19:56] did nothing

[01:19:56] more but

[01:19:57] confirm what

[01:19:58] studies they

[01:19:59] had already

[01:19:59] completed.

[01:20:01] Okay?

[01:20:01] And I'm

[01:20:02] saying that's

[01:20:02] not a true

[01:20:03] record of

[01:20:03] history.

[01:20:04] And may I

[01:20:04] share with

[01:20:05] you,

[01:20:05] before I come

[01:20:05] right to

[01:20:06] your

[01:20:06] question,

[01:20:07] that even

[01:20:08] a very,

[01:20:09] very good

[01:20:09] man whom

[01:20:10] I know

[01:20:10] well,

[01:20:10] one of our

[01:20:11] brilliant

[01:20:11] scholars in

[01:20:12] the Adventist

[01:20:12] faith who

[01:20:13] is totally

[01:20:13] historic in

[01:20:14] his thinking,

[01:20:15] has gotten

[01:20:15] hooked on

[01:20:16] that too.

[01:20:16] He put out

[01:20:17] something just

[01:20:17] lately that I

[01:20:18] read last

[01:20:18] month,

[01:20:19] about two

[01:20:20] weeks ago.

[01:20:21] Brilliant

[01:20:21] writing all

[01:20:22] the way

[01:20:22] through defending

[01:20:23] the spirit

[01:20:23] of prophecy,

[01:20:24] but he put

[01:20:25] it the same

[01:20:26] way, that they

[01:20:26] studied it

[01:20:27] out and Ellen

[01:20:27] White confirmed

[01:20:28] it.

[01:20:29] I'm saying she

[01:20:29] did not just

[01:20:30] confirm it,

[01:20:30] they did not

[01:20:31] study it

[01:20:31] out.

[01:20:32] Okay,

[01:20:32] now,

[01:20:33] this brother

[01:20:33] is raising a

[01:20:34] question.

[01:20:35] Because I

[01:20:36] pointed out

[01:20:36] that they

[01:20:37] did not

[01:20:38] figure the

[01:20:39] plan of

[01:20:39] salvation out

[01:20:40] all by

[01:20:40] themselves,

[01:20:41] and that we

[01:20:42] cannot figure it

[01:20:43] out all by

[01:20:43] ourselves,

[01:20:44] we have to

[01:20:44] take the

[01:20:45] help that the

[01:20:46] prophets have

[01:20:46] given us.

[01:20:48] And he

[01:20:48] mentions the

[01:20:49] case of,

[01:20:50] the first one

[01:20:50] he mentions

[01:20:50] William Miller,

[01:20:51] correct?

[01:20:52] Who studied

[01:20:53] it with the

[01:20:53] Bible in

[01:20:53] concordance,

[01:20:54] and he

[01:20:55] mentioned the

[01:20:56] eunuch in

[01:20:56] Philip,

[01:20:57] and he

[01:20:58] mentioned the

[01:20:58] case of

[01:20:59] Daniel,

[01:21:00] and things

[01:21:01] like that.

[01:21:01] Okay.

[01:21:02] I do not

[01:21:06] have to

[01:21:09] have a

[01:21:11] living

[01:21:11] prophet

[01:21:11] standing

[01:21:12] beside me.

[01:21:13] I have

[01:21:13] everything that

[01:21:14] the prophets

[01:21:14] have done

[01:21:15] before.

[01:21:16] Now,

[01:21:17] here's where

[01:21:17] the two

[01:21:17] link together,

[01:21:18] as I understand

[01:21:19] it.

[01:21:20] The writings

[01:21:20] that we

[01:21:21] find in

[01:21:21] here tell

[01:21:23] us,

[01:21:24] number one,

[01:21:24] there will

[01:21:25] be the

[01:21:26] gift of

[01:21:26] prophecy in

[01:21:26] the last

[01:21:27] days,

[01:21:27] number two,

[01:21:28] we should

[01:21:28] pay attention

[01:21:29] to it.

[01:21:30] So when

[01:21:30] I say

[01:21:31] that I'm

[01:21:32] not ignoring

[01:21:33] that counsel,

[01:21:34] I think I'm

[01:21:35] standing on

[01:21:36] solid ground.

[01:21:37] I'm not

[01:21:38] just saying

[01:21:40] that each

[01:21:41] one of us

[01:21:41] has to be

[01:21:42] a prophet,

[01:21:43] or that each

[01:21:43] one of us

[01:21:44] has to have

[01:21:44] a prophet

[01:21:45] standing beside

[01:21:45] us.

[01:21:46] We've got

[01:21:47] this,

[01:21:48] and we've

[01:21:48] got the

[01:21:49] many,

[01:21:49] many volumes

[01:21:50] written by

[01:21:50] God's

[01:21:51] modern day

[01:21:51] prophet,

[01:21:52] and I

[01:21:52] think they

[01:21:53] fit together,

[01:21:53] and I

[01:21:54] think the

[01:21:54] link that

[01:21:56] holds them

[01:21:56] together is

[01:21:58] where we

[01:21:58] find the

[01:21:59] statements in

[01:21:59] the Bible

[01:22:00] that there

[01:22:00] will be

[01:22:01] the gift of

[01:22:01] prophecy in

[01:22:02] the last

[01:22:02] days,

[01:22:02] and we

[01:22:03] have to

[01:22:03] pay attention

[01:22:04] to that.

[01:22:04] Does that

[01:22:05] come close

[01:22:06] to answering

[01:22:07] your question?

[01:22:07] You want to

[01:22:08] add some

[01:22:08] more?

[01:22:10] Okay.

[01:22:11] Anybody

[01:22:12] else?

[01:22:12] Brother?

[01:22:28] I understand

[01:22:29] your question.

[01:22:30] That comes

[01:22:30] up very

[01:22:30] frequently.

[01:22:31] The question

[01:22:31] is this by

[01:22:32] another brother

[01:22:33] here.

[01:22:33] What did

[01:22:34] Ellen White

[01:22:35] mean when

[01:22:35] she referred

[01:22:35] to her

[01:22:36] work as

[01:22:36] a lesser

[01:22:36] light to

[01:22:38] lead men

[01:22:38] to the

[01:22:38] greater

[01:22:39] light,

[01:22:39] and was

[01:22:40] her work

[01:22:41] therefore less

[01:22:42] inspired?

[01:22:43] This is

[01:22:44] the topic

[01:22:45] of degrees

[01:22:46] of inspiration,

[01:22:48] and I

[01:22:49] maintain that

[01:22:50] there's no

[01:22:50] such thing as

[01:22:51] a degree of

[01:22:51] inspiration.

[01:22:52] I sometimes

[01:22:53] say there's

[01:22:54] no such thing

[01:22:54] as being

[01:22:55] partially pregnant.

[01:22:56] You're either

[01:22:56] pregnant or

[01:22:56] you're not,

[01:22:58] and you're

[01:22:59] either inspired

[01:22:59] or you're

[01:23:00] not.

[01:23:01] How would

[01:23:02] you read

[01:23:03] and study

[01:23:04] a partially

[01:23:05] inspired document?

[01:23:06] You say,

[01:23:06] well,

[01:23:06] every fifth

[01:23:07] word is

[01:23:07] inspired.

[01:23:08] Skip four

[01:23:09] and hit

[01:23:09] the fifth

[01:23:09] one.

[01:23:10] Skip four

[01:23:10] and hit

[01:23:10] the fifth

[01:23:10] one.

[01:23:11] Every fifth

[01:23:11] word is

[01:23:11] inspired.

[01:23:12] Well,

[01:23:13] every third

[01:23:13] word or

[01:23:14] every second

[01:23:14] word,

[01:23:14] would you

[01:23:15] say the

[01:23:15] top half

[01:23:16] of every

[01:23:16] word is

[01:23:16] inspired,

[01:23:17] the bottom

[01:23:17] half of

[01:23:18] every word

[01:23:18] is not

[01:23:19] inspired?

[01:23:20] I don't

[01:23:21] find any

[01:23:21] satisfaction

[01:23:22] in that at

[01:23:22] all.

[01:23:23] So far as

[01:23:24] I know,

[01:23:24] there is no

[01:23:24] such thing

[01:23:25] as a degree

[01:23:26] of inspiration

[01:23:28] as long as

[01:23:28] we're talking

[01:23:29] about the same

[01:23:29] category.

[01:23:30] Now,

[01:23:30] there are two

[01:23:30] different

[01:23:33] powers.

[01:23:33] That's not

[01:23:34] what we're

[01:23:34] talking about.

[01:23:35] That's a

[01:23:35] quickening of

[01:23:35] my own

[01:23:36] physical

[01:23:36] powers,

[01:23:37] okay?

[01:23:37] And to

[01:23:38] some extent

[01:23:38] my own

[01:23:39] intellectual

[01:23:39] powers when

[01:23:40] I take

[01:23:40] a shower.

[01:23:41] We're not

[01:23:42] talking about

[01:23:42] that definition

[01:23:43] of inspiration.

[01:23:44] We're talking

[01:23:44] about the

[01:23:45] inspiration that

[01:23:46] comes from

[01:23:46] God.

[01:23:47] And I don't

[01:23:48] know how

[01:23:48] in the world

[01:23:49] God can

[01:23:49] partially

[01:23:50] inspire

[01:23:50] anybody.

[01:23:54] I've never

[01:23:54] met anybody

[01:23:55] who could

[01:23:55] explain that to

[01:23:56] me and I've

[01:23:56] challenged

[01:23:57] people with

[01:23:57] it.

[01:23:57] It just

[01:23:58] doesn't make

[01:23:58] sense to me.

[01:23:59] Now,

[01:23:59] the lesser

[01:24:00] light thing.

[01:24:01] One interesting

[01:24:02] thing,

[01:24:02] you might want

[01:24:03] to do a little

[01:24:03] study there.

[01:24:04] I have one

[01:24:04] friend who's

[01:24:05] challenged me on

[01:24:05] that point.

[01:24:07] He says,

[01:24:08] you try to

[01:24:08] prove to me

[01:24:09] that Ellen White

[01:24:10] said the lesser

[01:24:10] light is her

[01:24:11] writings and the

[01:24:12] bigger light is

[01:24:12] the Bible.

[01:24:14] And I will

[01:24:15] prove to you

[01:24:15] that what she

[01:24:16] really meant was

[01:24:17] the lesser

[01:24:17] light was herself

[01:24:18] and the bigger

[01:24:19] light is Jesus

[01:24:19] Christ.

[01:24:21] Now,

[01:24:22] I haven't studied

[01:24:23] that exhaustively

[01:24:23] myself,

[01:24:24] so I'm not

[01:24:24] prepared to really

[01:24:25] make a speech

[01:24:26] on the subject,

[01:24:27] but that's

[01:24:27] something I

[01:24:28] just suggest

[01:24:28] you think

[01:24:29] about.

[01:24:29] But in

[01:24:29] any case,

[01:24:31] prophets of

[01:24:32] God can be

[01:24:34] fully inspired

[01:24:34] but not given

[01:24:35] the same job

[01:24:36] to do.

[01:24:38] One moment,

[01:24:38] brother.

[01:24:39] The prophet of

[01:24:40] God is told,

[01:24:41] I want you to

[01:24:42] write something

[01:24:42] and the Lord

[01:24:43] says this goes

[01:24:43] in the

[01:24:44] scriptures.

[01:24:45] You find the

[01:24:46] name of

[01:24:46] prophets in

[01:24:47] the Bible

[01:24:47] who didn't

[01:24:48] write any

[01:24:48] part of

[01:24:48] the Bible.

[01:24:49] There's a

[01:24:49] prophet named

[01:24:49] Gad who's

[01:24:50] mentioned,

[01:24:50] the prophet

[01:24:51] named Iddo,

[01:24:51] the three

[01:24:52] daughters of

[01:24:52] Philip,

[01:24:52] and a few

[01:24:53] others who

[01:24:53] are mentioned

[01:24:53] in the Bible.

[01:24:54] They didn't

[01:24:55] write any

[01:24:55] part of the

[01:24:55] Bible.

[01:24:57] So they

[01:24:57] may have

[01:24:58] been fully

[01:24:58] inspired,

[01:24:59] but the

[01:24:59] Lord did

[01:24:59] not choose

[01:25:00] to put

[01:25:00] their writings

[01:25:00] in the

[01:25:01] Bible for

[01:25:01] reasons best

[01:25:02] known to

[01:25:02] himself.

[01:25:03] And so I

[01:25:04] don't have

[01:25:04] any problem

[01:25:05] with that

[01:25:05] myself,

[01:25:06] and I

[01:25:06] hope you

[01:25:06] don't either.

[01:25:07] The brother

[01:25:08] over here

[01:25:08] in the

[01:25:08] corner?

[01:25:28] Okay,

[01:25:29] is that

[01:25:29] your question?

[01:25:30] This brother

[01:25:31] is raising a

[01:25:32] question that

[01:25:32] he understands

[01:25:33] that Ellen

[01:25:33] White referred

[01:25:34] to the Bible

[01:25:36] as the book

[01:25:37] of books,

[01:25:38] which he would

[01:25:39] take to say

[01:25:40] above her

[01:25:40] books.

[01:25:41] I don't

[01:25:42] see any

[01:25:42] problem

[01:25:43] there.

[01:25:43] Ellen

[01:25:44] White elevates

[01:25:45] the Bible

[01:25:45] above everything.

[01:25:46] She says

[01:25:47] it's number

[01:25:47] one,

[01:25:48] it's the

[01:25:48] first.

[01:25:49] But the

[01:25:50] Bible that

[01:25:51] she elevates,

[01:25:53] what does it

[01:25:53] tell us to do

[01:25:54] with her books?

[01:25:56] Do you see

[01:25:57] what I'm saying?

[01:25:58] The Bible

[01:25:59] which she puts

[01:26:00] way up there

[01:26:01] above everything

[01:26:02] else,

[01:26:02] what does that

[01:26:03] Bible tell us

[01:26:03] to do with

[01:26:04] her books

[01:26:04] to tell us

[01:26:06] to follow them?

[01:26:07] Is your hand

[01:26:07] up, brother?

[01:26:09] No?

[01:26:10] Anybody else?

[01:26:13] All right.

[01:26:14] I can see

[01:26:15] you're going

[01:26:15] to be easy

[01:26:16] to get along

[01:26:16] with if it

[01:26:17] continues like

[01:26:18] this.

[01:26:20] You want

[01:26:20] another hand?

[01:26:22] Yes.

[01:26:29] Amen.

[01:26:31] Prove that

[01:26:31] which is good.

[01:26:32] Hold fast.

[01:26:33] Hold on fast.

[01:26:34] Prove that

[01:26:34] which is good.

[01:26:35] Do you want

[01:26:35] to close the

[01:26:36] meeting,

[01:26:36] brother?

[01:26:37] Thank you.